Adam Fox for the Norris

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Created by: mlbrunner16

Team: 2020-21 New York Rangers

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 6, 2021

Published: Apr. 6, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Fox is kinda good at hockey... wish he would get more consideration for the Norris...

Buyouts

Kevin Shattenkirk: $6,083,333
Henrik Lundqvist: $5,500,000
Dan Girardi: $1,111,111
Ryan Spooner: $300,000
Brad Richards: $0

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
1	$81,500,000	$55,137,301	$0	$850,000	$26,362,699

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender

	Fox, Adam $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 2

Taxi Squad
Lafrenière, Alexis $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) ($2,850,000$3M) LW, RW RFA - 3
Kreider, Chris $6,500,000$6,500,000 ($5,425,000$5M$5,425,000$5M) LW NMC UFA - 7
Zibanejad, Mika $5,350,000$5,350,000 ($4,275,000$4M$4,275,000$4M) C NMC UFA - 2
Buchnevich, Pavel $3,250,000$3,250,000 ($2,175,000$2M$2,175,000$2M) LW, RW, C UFA - 1
Trouba, Jacob $8,000,000$8,000,000 ($6,925,000$7M$6,925,000$7M) RD NMC UFA - 6
Kakko, Kaapo $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) ($2,650,000$3M) RW RFA - 2
Strome, Ryan $4,500,000$4,500,000 ($3,425,000$3M$3,425,000$3M) RW, C UFA - 2
Di Giuseppe, Phillip $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) LW UFA - 1
Rooney, Kevin $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0) C UFA - 2
Howden, Brett $863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0) C, LW UFA - 1
Gauthier, Julien $863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0) ($300,000$300K) RW UFA - 1
Kravtsov, Vitali $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) ($850,000$850K) LW, RW RFA - 2
Chytil, Filip $894,166$894,166 ($0$0$0$0) ($350,000$350K) C, LW UFA - 1
Georgiev, Alexandar $2,425,000$2,425,000 ($1,350,000$1M$1,350,000$1M) G UFA - 2
Blackwell, Colin $725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0) C, RW UFA - 2
Shesterkin, Igor $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) ($2,850,000$3M) G UFA - 1
Smith, Brendan $4,350,000$4,350,000 ($3,275,000$3M$3,275,000$3M) LD/RD, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Miller, K'Andre $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) ($300,000$300K) LD RFA - 3
Deangelo, Anthony $4,800,000$4,800,000 ($3,725,000$4M$3,725,000$4M) RD UFA - 2
Lindgren, Ryan $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) ($212,500$212K) LD RFA - 1
Hájek, Libor $833,333$833,333 ($0$0$0$0) LD UFA - 1
Johnson, Jack $1,150,000$1,150,000 ($75,000$75K$75,000$75K) LD UFA - 1
Kinkaid, Keith $825,000$825,000 ($0$0$0$0) G UFA - 2
Bitetto, Anthony $737,500$737,500 ($0$0$0$0) LD UFA - 2
Panarin, Artemi $11,642,857$11,642,857 ($10,567,857$11M$10,567,857$11M) LW NMC UFA - 6

Apr. 6, 2021 at 9:52 p.m.

imawesome

I want Gourde back

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Not when Jack Johnson is around

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Apr. 6, 2021 at 9:53 p.m.

Devil

Speak of the Devil

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C R Y B A B Y

I don't like Fox

Jack Johnson> Adam Crybaby Fox

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Apr. 6, 2021 at 9:54 p.m.

bhavikp27

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Fox has 36 pts in 37 games and he's +13. That's the two main criteria for the voters, he'll obviously have enough consideration by the end of the season.

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Apr. 6, 2021 at 10:11 p.m.

Igoat_Shesterkin

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Quoting: bhavikp27

Fox has 36 pts in 37 games and he's +13. That's the two main criteria for the voters, he'll obviously have enough consideration by the end of the season.

He is also really good defensively, he isn't very big but his hockey IQ is insane and he can read plays better than anyone I've ever see

Apr. 6, 2021 at 10:13 p.m.

TheDime99

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Quoting: bhavikp27

Fox has 36 pts in 37 games and he's +13. That's the two main criteria for the voters, he'll obviously have enough consideration by the end of the season.

Its honestly so sad that they really are the criteria that is used for best defenseman in the league. Why not make a separate trophy focused on Offensive output for defensemen.

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Apr. 6, 2021 at 10:14 p.m.

bhavikp27

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Quoting: Igoat_Shesterkin

He is also really good defensively, he isn't very big but his hockey IQ is insane and he can read plays better than anyone I've ever see

I know he's an elite two-way D. Voters will use his +/- and his time on ice to justify it.

Apr. 6, 2021 at 10:15 p.m.

TheThunder

PULL A TAMPA IGNORE

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Barring something crazy the Big Swede in Tampa Bay has the Norris

Apr. 6, 2021 at 10:15 p.m.

bhavikp27

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Quoting: TheDime99

Its honestly so sad that they really are the criteria that is used for best defenseman in the league. Why not make a separate trophy focused on Offensive output for defensemen.

Agreed but to be honest, they would still get it wrong especially the second award/trophy (all-around D or defensive D whatever it is).

Apr. 6, 2021 at 10:25 p.m.

NYRxLundqvist

Mods have power egos

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Quoting: Devil1122

C R Y B A B Y

I don't like Fox

Jack Johnson> Adam Crybaby Fox

Nobody cares the devils are trash

Apr. 6, 2021 at 11:22 p.m.

#10

Heyhowareya37

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He definitely will be on ballots. Hedman, McAvoy, Nurse, Fox, Ekblad was definitely there as well. Could be missing a couple

Apr. 7, 2021 at 12:12 a.m.

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aedoran

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Quoting: bhavikp27

Fox has 36 pts in 37 games and he's +13. That's the two main criteria for the voters, he'll obviously have enough consideration by the end of the season.

It's impossible to say that there are 180 voting members PHWA (Professional Hockey Writers Association) and each one could have different criteria. With the emergence of advanced analytics +/- doesn't play as big of a role as it used to. +/- by it self really doesn't tell you much at all. You can have really good defenseman on a bad team and his +/- is awful but a mediocre or bad defenseman on a really good team and he could have a good +/-. Just like the advanced stats you don't get a clear picture with just one stat.

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Apr. 7, 2021 at 12:19 a.m.

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aedoran

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What makes you think Fox isn't getting enough consideration?

2021 NHL Norris Trophy odds

Apr. 7, 2021 at 7:40 a.m.

#13

bhavikp27

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Quoting: aedoran

It's impossible to say that there are 180 voting members PHWA (Professional Hockey Writers Association) and each one could have different criteria. With the emergence of advanced analytics +/- doesn't play as big of a role as it used to. +/- by it self really doesn't tell you much at all. You can have really good defenseman on a bad team and his +/- is awful but a mediocre or bad defenseman on a really good team and he could have a good +/-. Just like the advanced stats you don't get a clear picture with just one stat.

100% agreed but that's not a concept they seem to understand since they keep using it.

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Apr. 7, 2021 at 6:00 p.m.

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aedoran

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Quoting: bhavikp27

100% agreed but that's not a concept they seem to understand since they keep using it.

You are right there but the advanced stats have been around since what 2014 or so. We can only hope that more of the voters are using are starting to factor them in to their decisions or at least using +/- relative terms comparing it to NYRs goal differential. Just like they do with the advanced stats comparing them to the teams numbers in each category. I don't know how they choose the 180 voting members but I think it is probably a position that come with seniority so there are probably some voters that simply won't vote for a younger player because he hasn't put in his dues yet so to say.

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