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Rangers after Eichel trade

Created by: Devil1122
Initial Creation Date: Apr 15, 2021
Published: Apr 15 at 4:27
Team: 2021-22 New York Rangers
Team Explanation
Some Rangers fans think this is too much for Eichel (it definitely isn't), but all of the pieces in this trade are replaceable. Eichel replaces Strome, Kravstov replaces Kaako, Lundkvist replaces Schneider, Kinkaid or any backup goalie replaces Georgiev. Rangers are in a position where they can trade from places of strength for places of weakness and can give up prospects and picks to do so. Rangers have no reason not to do this trade. If anything, Buffalo would decline (but they shouldn't)
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Lundkvist, Nils3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Buchnevich, Pavel5$5,500,000
Chytil, Filip2$3,000,000
Gauthier, Julien2$1,000,000
Lindgren, Ryan2$3,000,000
Shesterkin, Igor6$7,000,000
Howden, Brett2$1,000,000
Ronning, Ty2$1,000,000
Hájek, Libor2$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Di Giuseppe, Phillip1$1,000,000
Trades
NYR
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. Kakko, Kaapo
  2. Strome, Ryan
  3. Schneider, Braden
  4. Georgiev, Alexandar
  5. 2021 1st round pick (NYR)
  6. 2022 2nd round pick (NYR)
NYR
    Kraken
    ARI
    1. Howden, Brett
    Buyouts
    • Henrik Lundqvist: $1,500,000
    • Kevin Shattenkirk: $1,433,333
    • Dan Girardi: $1,111,111
    • Brad Richards: $0
    • Anthony Deangelo: $383,333
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    NYR
    BUF
    NYR
    LAK
    OTT
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    2022
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    2023
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$77,195,634$0$6,600,000$4,304,366
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    NYR
    Panarin, Artemi
    $11,642,857
    LW
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    BUF
    Eichel, Jack
    $10,000,000
    C
    UFA - 5
    NYR
    Kravtsov, Vitali
    $925,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    NYR
    Lafrenière, Alexis
    $925,000
    LW
    RFA - 2
    NYR
    Zibanejad, Mika
    $5,350,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    NYR
    Buchnevich, Pavel
    $5,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 4
    NYR
    Kreider, Chris
    $6,500,000
    LW
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    NYR
    Chytil, Filip
    $3,000,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    NYR
    Gauthier, Julien
    $1,000,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    NYR
    Di Giuseppe, Phillip
    $1,000,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    NYR
    Blackwell, Colin
    $725,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    NYR
    Rooney, Kevin
    $750,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    NYR
    Lindgren, Ryan
    $3,000,000
    LD
    RFA - 3
    NYR
    Fox, Adam
    $925,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    NYR
    Shesterkin, Igor
    $7,000,000
    G
    UFA - 4
    NYR
    Miller, K'Andre
    $925,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
    NYR
    Trouba, Jacob
    $8,000,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    NYR
    Kinkaid, Keith
    $825,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    NYR
    Jones, Zachary
    $925,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
    NYR
    Lundkvist, Nils
    $925,000
    RD
    RFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    NYR
    Hájek, Libor
    $1,000,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    NYR
    Ronning, Ty
    $1,000,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    NYR
    Barron, Morgan
    $925,000
    C
    RFA - 2

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    Apr 15 at 4:34
    #1
    Skeating_sec224
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    Edited Apr 15 at 4:42
    Thats more than the most recent of the reported ask from Buffalo for Eichel, (4) First round type pieces, thats 4 plus , & that was before the neck issue & the sell off from the Buffalo wasteland.

    I think the trade market may see more Centers on it than originally thought, Gorton likely takes a full view of what's out there, see what Buffalo can net for Eichel, who the other suitors may be, & make an offer based on that ... i wouldn't go in at over the ask on the first pass.
    Apr 15 at 4:37
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    Kravtsov_Stan
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    That first line could rip the league up
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    Apr 15 at 5:10
    #3
    thewookie1
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    Buffalo is not trading Eichel to the Rangers, end this ceaseless idiocy. If, and that’s a huge if, they trade Eichel, it will not be to a team in the East
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    Apr 15 at 5:35
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    Quoting: Skeating622
    Thats more than the most recent of the reported ask from Buffalo for Eichel, (4) First round type pieces, thats 4 plus , & that was before the neck issue & the sell off from the Buffalo wasteland.

    I think the trade market may see more Centers on it than originally thought, Gorton likely takes a full view of what's out there, see what Buffalo can net for Eichel, who the other suitors may be, & make an offer based on that ... i wouldn't go in at over the ask on the first pass.


    There won't be centers like Eichel on the market for long. Rangers aren't the only team trying to get Eichel so they would have to pay more to outbid. And Buffalo would want at least 1 quality piece going back.
    Apr 15 at 5:36
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    Quoting: Kravtsov_Stan
    That first line could rip the league up


    I was thinking of making the first line Laf-Eichel-Panarin but Im not sure if it would work
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    Apr 15 at 5:36
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    Quoting: thewookie1
    Buffalo is not trading Eichel to the Rangers, end this ceaseless idiocy. If, and that’s a huge if, they trade Eichel, it will not be to a team in the East


    That's a fair argument but if they want to get the best offer, it would come from the Rangers
    Apr 15 at 5:53
    #7
    Kravtsov_Stan
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    Quoting: Devil1122
    I was thinking of making the first line Laf-Eichel-Panarin but Im not sure if it would work


    good to spread out scoring anyway
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    Apr 15 at 6:25
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    Quoting: Devil1122
    There won't be centers like Eichel on the market for long. Rangers aren't the only team trying to get Eichel so they would have to pay more to outbid. And Buffalo would want at least 1 quality piece going back.


    I don’t think many, if any, teams are actively trying to get him. It’s just a few phone calls asking the price which clearly no one has interest in paying the price. If LA wanted him they would have him already and be taking the plunge in the standings to get a top 3 pick. NYR have plenty of assests, could have easily packaged Laf, Kravs, Lundkvist and Schneider together to pay the price, only taking 1 roster player from the team to receive a high end C which is what people seem to think we need. If you make that package the package for Eichel I’m sure all fan bases except NYR would say deal. And to help make it work ADA would be tossed in(salary wise in 21’) next season there is obviously room but I’m making the point that we could easily get him if he was that badly wanted/needed.
    Apr 15 at 6:30
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    Quoting: thewookie1
    Buffalo is not trading Eichel to the Rangers, end this ceaseless idiocy. If, and that’s a huge if, they trade Eichel, it will not be to a team in the East


    The Rangers will be back in the Metropolitan division next year when things are normal again smart guy. Maybe cease your own idiocy
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    Apr 15 at 6:39
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    No reason to trade for Eichel. I’d rather keep the team I have and develop than do something dumb like this.
    Apr 15 at 7:01
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    Quoting: NYR1983
    I don’t think many, if any, teams are actively trying to get him. It’s just a few phone calls asking the price which clearly no one has interest in paying the price. If LA wanted him they would have him already and be taking the plunge in the standings to get a top 3 pick. NYR have plenty of assests, could have easily packaged Laf, Kravs, Lundkvist and Schneider together to pay the price, only taking 1 roster player from the team to receive a high end C which is what people seem to think we need. If you make that package the package for Eichel I’m sure all fan bases except NYR would say deal. And to help make it work ADA would be tossed in(salary wise in 21’) next season there is obviously room but I’m making the point that we could easily get him if he was that badly wanted/needed.


    He isn't being shopped yet. 2020 offseason the Rangers reached out for Eichel in a package that included MIka and Laf but the Sabres rejected. Unless Eichel really wants out, Rangers can't "easily" get him unless they give Buffalo alot of their prospects which wouldn't be smart
    Apr 15 at 7:02
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    Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
    No reason to trade for Eichel. I’d rather keep the team I have and develop than do something dumb like this.


    This isn't dumb. Makes sense for both sides
    Apr 15 at 7:04
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    Quoting: Devil1122
    This isn't dumb. Makes sense for both sides


    How does destroying our long term cap help us. It’ll force us to dismantle the team when it comes time to pay the young players.
    Apr 15 at 7:05
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    Quoting: Devil1122
    This isn't dumb. Makes sense for both sides

    You prolly don’t care cause your a Devils fan, but it doesn’t help. And then you trade the world to get him, when those cheap young pieces and picks are needed to supplement the team when cap space is tight. I don’t think you get how the cap works.
    Apr 15 at 7:05
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    Quoting: Devil1122
    He isn't being shopped yet. 2020 offseason the Rangers reached out for Eichel in a package that included MIka and Laf but the Sabres rejected. Unless Eichel really wants out, Rangers can't "easily" get him unless they give Buffalo alot of their prospects which wouldn't be smart


    When I say “easily” I mean they have 3x the assets needed to acquire him. Yes they would have to give up some prospects but they have those assets where most teams can’t come close to matching. By a long shot the deepest prospect pool of youth
    Apr 15 at 7:08
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    Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
    How does destroying our long term cap help us. It’ll force us to dismantle the team when it comes time to pay the young players.


    Doesn't destroy the cap. It actually helps

    Strome makes 4.5 and with the way he's playing he would want a raise (which the Rangers wouldn't want to give him)
    Kaako would make around 4 on his bridge deal. Kaako will make more if he gets a long term deal
    Georgiev makes 2.5 which is too much for a backup goalie
    Schneider is moveable

    4.5+4+2.5>10
    Apr 15 at 7:10
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    Quoting: Devil1122
    Doesn't destroy the cap. It actually helps

    Strome makes 4.5 and with the way he's playing he would want a raise (which the Rangers wouldn't want to give him)
    Kaako would make around 4 on his bridge deal. Kaako will make more if he gets a long term deal
    Georgiev makes 2.5 which is too much for a backup goalie
    Schneider is moveable

    4.5+4+2.5>10


    You’re not factoring in Fox, Shesty, Miller, Chytil, Kravtsov, Buch, Lindgren and oh yeah Laf. Plus Jones and Nils. It does not work with a flat cap. I’m not losing half of those guys for Eichel.
    Apr 15 at 7:56
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    Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
    You’re not factoring in Fox, Shesty, Miller, Chytil, Kravtsov, Buch, Lindgren and oh yeah Laf. Plus Jones and Nils. It does not work with a flat cap. I’m not losing half of those guys for Eichel.


    Eichel trade hurts short-term cap space. Eichel trade helps long term cap space

    Rangers have short term cap space but not long term cap space

    I could explain in more detail if you want me to but as crazy as it sounds, the Rangers' cap sitaution would be better if they got Eichel
    Apr 15 at 8:02
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    Quoting: Devil1122
    Eichel trade hurts short-term cap space. Eichel trade helps long term cap space

    Rangers have short term cap space but not long term cap space

    I could explain in more detail if you want me to but as crazy as it sounds, the Rangers' cap sitaution would be better if they got Eichel


    You’re not explaining how we’d resign all those guys within the next 3 years. Adding Eichel makes that impossible.
    Apr 16 at 6:42
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    thewookie1
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    Quoting: PuckYourself
    The Rangers will be back in the Metropolitan division next year when things are normal again smart guy. Maybe cease your own idiocy


    Well seeing as the Metro will still be in Eastern Conference
     
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