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Created by: NoWah49
Team: 2021-22 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 21, 2021
Published: Apr. 21, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$7,500,000
1$2,500,000
1$1,000,000
1$900,000
1$900,000
Trades
1.
TBL
  1. Jarvis, Seth
  2. Trocheck, Vincent
  3. 2021 1st round pick (CAR)
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pretty unrealistic, but I wanted to see what could happen if they did this
CAR
  1. Foote, Cal [RFA Rights]
  2. Vasilevskiy, Andrei
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no goalie should be making 10 mil, I do not care if they're the best in the league.
2.
TBL
    or wherever
    BUF
    1. Johnson, Tyler
    2. 2021 1st round pick (CAR)
    3.
    TBL
    ANA
    1. McDonagh, Ryan
    2. Rutta, Jan
    3. 2022 1st round pick (TBL)
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    Seattle
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2021
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    2022
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    2023
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    20$81,500,000$81,055,955$145,122$500,000$444,045
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $4,450,000$4,450,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    $8,500,000$8,500,000
    LW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $9,500,000$9,500,000
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $5,300,000$5,300,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $6,750,000$6,750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $4,750,000$4,750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $5,166,666$5,166,666
    C, LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
    RW
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $900,000$900,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $4,800,000$4,800,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $737,500$737,500
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $737,500$737,500
    C
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $7,875,000$7,875,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    $7,500,000$7,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 7
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    G
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $4,800,000$4,800,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $2,950,000$2,950,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $900,000$900,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    $900,000$900,000
    LD/RD
    UFA
    Taxi Squad
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    $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    LW
    UFA - 2

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    Apr. 21, 2021 at 3:05 p.m.
    #1
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    The Vasy trade is pretty risky. I think he's just better off sticking around in Tampa at least for the next few years.
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    Apr. 21, 2021 at 3:08 p.m.
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    So you say no goalie should be paid 10 million and proceed to trade him for a massive package? Kinda hypocritical don’t you think
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    Apr. 21, 2021 at 3:20 p.m.
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    I think CAR has shown that they don't need a $9.5m+ goaltender... especially at the cost of their top prospect and 2nd line C
    Apr. 21, 2021 at 3:51 p.m.
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    Yikes. Vasy is a top 5 player in the entire NHL right now. He’s not going anywhere especially with Foote for that.
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    Apr. 21, 2021 at 4:01 p.m.
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    I think Tampa should never have paid that much for Vas.

    Moving him would make by far the most sense.

    Ullmark likely gets much more than that. He isn't getting a paycut as a UFA
    Apr. 21, 2021 at 4:30 p.m.
    #6
    Go leafs go
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    Hey can the leafs have Vasi if that's all it takes?
    Thanks.
    Will give up Nylander, Kerfoot and a 1st (with no Foote in the trade).
    Apr. 21, 2021 at 6:33 p.m.
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    Quoting: Saskleaf
    Hey can the leafs have Vasi if that's all it takes?
    Thanks.
    Will give up Nylander, Kerfoot and a 1st (with no Foote in the trade).

    There’s kinda a foot in the trade
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    Apr. 21, 2021 at 8:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: mhockey91
    So you say no goalie should be paid 10 million and proceed to trade him for a massive package? Kinda hypocritical don’t you think


    a little but other teams would take on a 10 mil goalie wink (Price, Bob, Vas)
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    Apr. 21, 2021 at 8:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: Saskleaf
    Hey can the leafs have Vasi if that's all it takes?
    Thanks.
    Will give up Nylander, Kerfoot and a 1st (with no Foote in the trade).


    I’m not a Nylander fan by any means but tbh I wouldn’t make that trade. Too much money to pay a goalie as good as vasy is
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    Apr. 21, 2021 at 9:30 p.m.
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    Quoting: Saskleaf
    Hey can the leafs have Vasi if that's all it takes?
    Thanks.
    Will give up Nylander, Kerfoot and a 1st (with no Foote in the trade).


    You'd give up Nylander for Vasi when you have Campbell
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    Apr. 22, 2021 at 12:10 p.m.
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    Quoting: KINGS67
    There’s kinda a foot in the trade


    What I was saying is this:

    Toronto: Vasi
    TB: Nylander, Kerfoot, 1st

    which is better than the above package I would say.
    Apr. 22, 2021 at 12:16 p.m.
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    Quoting: mhockey91
    I’m not a Nylander fan by any means but tbh I wouldn’t make that trade. Too much money to pay a goalie as good as vasy is


    It's probably a bit of an overpay, but not really. Vasi is easily a top 3 goalie in the nhl. And goaltending is Toronto's biggest weakness by far. And yes, goalies shouldn't make as much as Vasi, but still, Toronto doesn't really care I don't think. They pay 40 mil for 4 forwards and everyone calls them nuts for it.

    Quoting: NoWah49
    You'd give up Nylander for Vasi when you have Campbell


    Haha
    Yes.
    If the trade was Nylander for Vasi strait up I would do that very, very easily.
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    Apr. 22, 2021 at 5:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: Saskleaf
    What I was saying is this:

    Toronto: Vasi
    TB: Nylander, Kerfoot, 1st

    which is better than the above package I would say.


    I think it's a wash. Nylander is better than Trocheck, but Trocheck makes way less, which is appealing for Tampa. I'd much rather have Jarvis than Kerfoot imo
    Apr. 22, 2021 at 6:01 p.m.
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    I think it's a wash. Nylander is better than Trocheck, but Trocheck makes way less, which is appealing for Tampa. I'd much rather have Jarvis than Kerfoot imo


    True. But I would still think Nylander is worth more. Also, you are forgetting the first, and Cal Foote.
     
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