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Kuzy

Created by: zyyyp
Initial Creation Date: May 5, 2021
Published: May 5 at 10:47
Team: 2021-22 New Jersey Devils
Team Explanation
don't know why everybody's trading for him on here lol but figured I would jump on the bandwagon
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kuokkanen, Janne2$2,000,000
Sharangovich, Yegor2$2,000,000
Mcleod, Michael2$900,000
Bastian, Nathan2$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Murray, Ryan3$3,000,000
Mrázek, Petr3$4,250,000
Trades
NJD
  1. Kuznetsov, Evgeny
WSH
  1. Maltsev, Mikhail
  2. 2021 1st round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. van Riemsdyk, James
PHI
  1. Wood, Miles
NJD
  1. Ellis, Ryan
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (NSH)
NSH
  1. Zacha, Pavel
  2. Butcher, Will
  3. 2021 1st round pick (NYI)
Additional Details:
Sell high on Zacha, what kind of RD could they acquire in a deal for him?
Buyouts
  • Cory Schneider: $2,000,000
Recapture Fees
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: $250,000
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
NYI
NSH
NJD
NJD
BUF
NJD
ARI
2022
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
EDM
NYI
NJD
CBJ
NJD
NJD
2023
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$71,013,332$0$4,207,500$10,486,668
Left WingCenterRight Wing
NJD
Bratt, Jesper
$2,750,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
WSH
Kuznetsov, Evgeny
$7,800,000
C
NTC
UFA - 4
NJD
Sharangovich, Yegor
$2,000,000
C, RW, LW
RFA
PHI
van Riemsdyk, James
$7,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
NJD
Hughes, Jack
$925,000
C
RFA - 1
NJD
Holtz, Alexander
$925,000
RW, LW
RFA - 3
NJD
Kuokkanen, Janne
$2,000,000
C, LW
RFA
NJD
Hischier, Nico
$7,250,000
C
UFA - 6
NJD
Boqvist, Jesper
$925,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
NJD
Foote, Nolan
$863,333
LW
RFA - 3
NJD
Mcleod, Michael
$900,000
C
RFA
NJD
Bastian, Nathan
$900,000
RW, C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NJD
Smith, Ty
$863,333
LD
RFA - 2
NSH
Ellis, Ryan
$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 6
NJD
Blackwood, Mackenzie
$2,800,000
G
RFA - 2
NJD
Murray, Ryan
$3,000,000
LD
UFA
NJD
Severson, Damon
$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 2
Mrázek, Petr
$4,250,000
G
UFA
NJD
Bahl, Kevin
$795,000
LD
RFA - 2
NJD
Subban, P.K.
$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
NJD
Johnsson, Andreas
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2

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May 5 at 10:51
#1
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https://www.tsn.ca/insider-trading-washington-capitals-may-look-to-trade-evgeny-kuznetsov-this-offseason-1.1634598
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May 5 at 10:53
#2
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Quoting: Gmonwy
https://www.tsn.ca/insider-trading-washington-capitals-may-look-to-trade-evgeny-kuznetsov-this-offseason-1.1634598


interesting, thanks. I don't think he's a great fit in NJ but I've always been a fan, fun to watch.
May 5 at 11:00
#3
Boi
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Kuzy is one of the most overrated players in the league and isn’t worth half his contract, now to trade a pick that will be used on an elite dman prospect for him would be awful
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May 5 at 11:14
#4
Jack Hughes is Elite
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I rather keep our first rather than getting a forward
May 5 at 11:17
#5
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When you have Jack Hughes and you can use the first round pick to draft his brother. Keep the first rounder. Not to mention Luke Hughes could be a top pairing LD.
May 5 at 11:19
#6
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Quoting: Devil1122
I rather keep our first rather than getting a forward


Lol they might take a forward with that pick
May 5 at 11:20
#7
Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: Bigboi69
Kuzy is one of the most overrated players in the league and isn’t worth half his contract, now to trade a pick that will be used on an elite dman prospect for him would be awful



kuzy is rated as at 1b or 2c? you are saying that there currently is 60+ centers that are better than Kuzy? what exactly is overrated about him? i dont see him on any top 20 lists? i would love to hear how a player ina bad year gets 60points and in a good year gets 80- points but ranks outside the top 30 centers and is overrated. lol
May 5 at 11:21
#8
Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: Devil1122
I rather keep our first rather than getting a forward


how far away would you say the Devils are from competing? 2-3 years? i know they have some good young talent coming up just wonering what the window looks like for them
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May 5 at 11:26
#9
Boi
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
kuzy is rated as at 1b or 2c? you are saying that there currently is 60+ centers that are better than Kuzy? what exactly is overrated about him? i dont see him on any top 20 lists? i would love to hear how a player ina bad year gets 60points and in a good year gets 80- points but ranks outside the top 30 centers and is overrated. lol


The fact that people think he’s worth a top 4 pick when he has very little impact on the ice, his points are very deceiving similar to Kane how he racks up way more points than he actually effects the game
May 5 at 11:27
#10
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Quoting: Bigboi69
The fact that people think he’s worth a top 4 pick when he has very little impact on the ice, his points are very deceiving similar to Kane how he racks up way more points than he actually effects the game


every time I've watched him he's had a pretty significant impact on the game
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May 5 at 11:28
#11
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
how far away would you say the Devils are from competing? 2-3 years? i know they have some good young talent coming up just wonering what the window looks like for them


It really depends on whenever Hughes turns into a legitimate star producer, could be next year, could be 3 years from now. my guess would be 2 years
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May 5 at 11:29
#12
Boi
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Quoting: zyyyp
every time I've watched him he's had a pretty significant impact on the game


That’s the problem, I compared him to Kane for a reason, both are flashy players that get a lot of points but don’t effect the game much positively
May 5 at 11:30
#13
Jack Hughes is Elite
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Quoting: zyyyp
Lol they might take a forward with that pick


I hope not. We have a guaranteed top 6 pick this year and there are 4 dman available. Im guessing at least one will fall to our pick
May 5 at 11:33
#14
Jack Hughes is Elite
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
how far away would you say the Devils are from competing? 2-3 years? i know they have some good young talent coming up just wonering what the window looks like for them


I would say 2-3 is about right. That would be when all of our young guys will develop. In about 2-3 years, teams like the Caps, Penguins, Bruins will start regressing a little so it would be the perfect time to start contending
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May 5 at 11:34
#15
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Quoting: Devil1122
I hope not. We have a guaranteed top 6 pick this year and there are 4 dman available. Im guessing at least one will fall to our pick


Thoughts vary. I think Power is overrated personally and don't see anything special with Edvinsson, for me there are only 2 defenceman worth taking with that pick. Conversely I really like Lysell, Guenther, Johnson. If anyone in the organization shares my sentiment there is a very solid chance they take a forward with that pick.
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May 5 at 11:41
#16
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Kuznetsov will be *a lot* cheaper than a 1st.
They are moving his salary.
NJD have two young centers playing top-6...where would we put him anyway?
May 5 at 12:03
#17
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Kuznetsov will be *a lot* cheaper than a 1st.
They are moving his salary.
NJD have two young centers playing top-6...where would we put him anyway?


gotta think he's capable of playing the wing. what do you think he would cost in a trade?
May 5 at 12:04
#18
Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: Bigboi69
The fact that people think he’s worth a top 4 pick when he has very little impact on the ice, his points are very deceiving similar to Kane how he racks up way more points than he actually effects the game


this is the most objective statement ive ever read... just say you dont like him. thats way easier than making up some lazy half baked narrative
May 5 at 12:06
#19
Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: zyyyp
It really depends on whenever Hughes turns into a legitimate star producer, could be next year, could be 3 years from now. my guess would be 2 years


makes sense. if NJD arent a competing team for 2 years Kuzy wouldbe a bad move. he makes sense to a team that needs a 1-2 c and is in a w in now mode. Vegas could really use him Stephenson is their 1c right now
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May 5 at 12:06
#20
Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: Devil1122
I would say 2-3 is about right. That would be when all of our young guys will develop. In about 2-3 years, teams like the Caps, Penguins, Bruins will start regressing a little so it would be the perfect time to start contending


if thats the case Kuzy does little to help and it would be a waste of assets imo. he needs to go to a team in a win now mode
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May 5 at 12:08
#21
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Quoting: Gmonwy
https://www.tsn.ca/insider-trading-washington-capitals-may-look-to-trade-evgeny-kuznetsov-this-offseason-1.1634598


Makes me think that Ovi may not resign there.
May 5 at 12:08
#22
Jack Hughes is Elite
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
if thats the case Kuzy does little to help and it would be a waste of assets imo. he needs to go to a team in a win now mode


Im thinking the Wild, Rangers or Knights could be good options
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May 5 at 12:08
#23
Jack Hughes is Elite
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Makes me think that Ovi may not resign there.


Ovi to NJ wink
May 5 at 12:10
#24
Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Kuznetsov will be *a lot* cheaper than a 1st.
They are moving his salary.
NJD have two young centers playing top-6...where would we put him anyway?


"a lot cheaper than a 1st" lol i laughed hard at this. Explain why Caps trade a 1b or 2c for less than a 1st round pick +.
May 5 at 12:11
#25
Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: Devil1122
Im thinking the Wild, Rangers or Knights could be good options


lol Rangers seem a little mad atm.. i imagine doing business with them could be tricky. Vegas makes a l ot of sense. Vegas could have him play w Stone and it would be crazy
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