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Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 3, 2021
Published: Jun. 3, 2021
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Jun. 3, 2021 at 11:49 p.m.
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Dougie’s points per game go down by 20% in the playoffs and his giveaways and PIMs go up 20%.


Pts go down in the playoffs..? Idk what that’s supposed to mean at all it’s playoffs tighter defensively played.
Jun. 3, 2021 at 11:49 p.m.
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Judging Slavin on his numbers was your first mistake.

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Slavin numbers go up playing with hamilton and down without out which is other way around for hamilton not saying hamilton is carrying slavin but it’s all right there. I was surprised when I saw it myself
Jun. 3, 2021 at 11:51 p.m.
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For a dman on a playoff team, it’s actually a really good way to tell.


Slavin and hamilton paired together Xgf 57.2%... slavin without hamilton drops to Xgf 50.9... hamilton goes up in Xgf 59.5% hamilton is doing just fine.
Jun. 3, 2021 at 11:51 p.m.
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Judging Slavin on his numbers was your first mistake.


Huh..? No it’s not lololol
Jun. 3, 2021 at 11:53 p.m.
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Huh..? No it’s not lololol


Then it should be really easy for you to explain why he doesn’t get the minutes.

Lololololololololololololololololololol
Jun. 3, 2021 at 11:54 p.m.
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Then it should be really easy for you to explain why he doesn’t get the minutes.

Lololololololololololololololololololol


LMAO your only argument is mins I just showed you slavin is worse without hamilton and hamilton is better without slavin..
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Jun. 3, 2021 at 11:57 p.m.
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I’ll disagree with some Canes fans here.

If $7.2M is all it takes to keep Hamilton, the Canes would be fools to let him go. It’s my feeling that he’s going to get at least $8M. He’s just not likely to get that from CAR.
Jun. 3, 2021 at 11:57 p.m.
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Hahaha OMG LOL WTF - by the way, ‘lololol’ doesn’t give your takes more weight or make me feel any different about mine.

I know this isn’t your original post, but your going to the paint pretty hard for Dougie here. I see your teams are the Oilers and the Jets not the Leafs or Canes. I’ll say it this way...I think it’s absolutely in the cards the Canes let Dougie walk if he asks for more than $6.5 (which he will) because what he brings doesn’t equal more than that. He will get paid and will struggle on another team - maybe the Oilers?

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Huh..? No it’s not lololol
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Jun. 4, 2021 at 12:05 a.m.
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What would i be jealous of? My team has an actual number one d.

Slavin and pesce are both significantly better than hamilton if we’re not talking fantasy hockey. Under 20 minutes in regulation. That sound like a number one to you? Ever wonder why slavin and pesce play more than he do?


Lol no point in arguing with jealousy.
Jun. 4, 2021 at 12:06 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac555
Hahaha OMG LOL WTF - by the way, ‘lololol’ doesn’t give your takes more weight or make me feel any different about mine.

I know this isn’t your original post, but your going to the paint pretty hard for Dougie here. I see your teams are the Oilers and the Jets not the Leafs or Canes. I’ll say it this way...I think it’s absolutely in the cards the Canes let Dougie walk if he asks for more than $6.5 (which he will) because what he brings doesn’t equal more than that. He will get paid and will struggle on another team - maybe the Oilers?


Does me saying “LOL” hurt ur feelings or something? Anything in the 8m range you should still take and run but eh whatever cheers
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Jun. 4, 2021 at 12:12 a.m.
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
LMAO your only argument is mins I just showed you slavin is worse without hamilton and hamilton is better without slavin..


No point in even continuing when that’s the asinine argument they have. Dougie is CAR best 5v5 Dman.
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Jun. 4, 2021 at 12:12 a.m.
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
LMAO your only argument is mins I just showed you slavin is worse without hamilton and hamilton is better without slavin..


No, I’ve made many arguments. If you read through this thread you’ll see them. I just asked one simple question that you can’t seem to find an answer for. It should be easy, right? Also do you think it’s weird that the one guy in this conversation that’s a canes fan and watches all of their games agrees with me, and strongly disagrees with you?

Stat sheet watching isn’t ideal bud.
Jun. 4, 2021 at 12:12 a.m.
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No point in even continuing when that’s the asinine argument they have. Dougie is CAR best 5v5 Dman.

You should take over for Rod as their head coach then. He thinks you’re very very wrong.
Jun. 4, 2021 at 12:15 a.m.
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You should take over for Rod as their head coach then. He thinks you’re very very wrong.


You act like coaches aren’t wrong all the time. I literally watched a full season the ducks where they never once played the best line up available. You have some deep hate or jealousy for Dougie.
Jun. 4, 2021 at 12:16 a.m.
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No, I’ve made many arguments. If you read through this thread you’ll see them. I just asked one simple question that you can’t seem to find an answer for. It should be easy, right? Also do you think it’s weird that the one guy in this conversation that’s a canes fan and watches all of their games agrees with me, and strongly disagrees with you?

Stat sheet watching isn’t ideal bud.


He avgs more mins then slavin and like 1 mins less the pesce sick man nice one.. I see staal avgs more then svech he must be better then right?
Jun. 4, 2021 at 12:25 a.m.
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He avgs more mins then slavin and like 1 mins less the pesce sick man nice one.. I see staal avgs more then svech he must be better then right?


Totally different discussion for forwards vs an alleged number one d. A number one d plays the most minutes. Period.

You may have noticed that slavin missed the first three games of the playoffs with injury. His minutes were limited in his first game. He plays more than hamilton. Hamilton has played a whopping five seconds more than skjei, because he’s a second pair D.

Wondering why you think the one canes fan agrees with me and strongly disagrees with you? Do you think he’s stupid?
Jun. 4, 2021 at 12:26 a.m.
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You act like coaches aren’t wrong all the time. I literally watched a full season the ducks where they never once played the best line up available. You have some deep hate or jealousy for Dougie.


Dougie is a fine player. He has his flaws and isn’t a top pair d, which is why he isn’t used as a top pair d. I like torey krug a lot, but i never thought he was a top pair D.
Jun. 4, 2021 at 12:42 a.m.
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Totally different discussion for forwards vs an alleged number one d. A number one d plays the most minutes. Period.

You may have noticed that slavin missed the first three games of the playoffs with injury. His minutes were limited in his first game. He plays more than hamilton. Hamilton has played a whopping five seconds more than skjei, because he’s a second pair D.

Wondering why you think the one canes fan agrees with me and strongly disagrees with you? Do you think he’s stupid?


Just because someone is a fan of a team they are automatically intelligent?? Yikes you have nothing in the argument except for mins played lmao and I just showed you the mins played aswell.. kris Russell avg 2nd most for icetime he must be the 2nd best dman in the 1st round
Jun. 4, 2021 at 12:48 a.m.
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Dougie is a fine player. He has his flaws and isn’t a top pair d, which is why he isn’t used as a top pair d. I like torey krug a lot, but i never thought he was a top pair D.


Dougie was in the best percentile for xGF this season and was better than both Pesce and Slavin in xGA.

You obviously think McAvoy is number 1 Dman. Dougie has had a better point share and xGF/xGA +/- than him. Dougie is one of the best Dmen in the league.
Jun. 4, 2021 at 1:01 a.m.
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Dougie was in the best percentile for xGF this season and was better than both Pesce and Slavin in xGA.

You obviously think McAvoy is number 1 Dman. Dougie has had a better point share and xGF/xGA +/- than him. Dougie is one of the best Dmen in the league.


Oh word. I was talking about playing hockey though. Not your xgfa nonsense
Jun. 4, 2021 at 1:02 a.m.
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Just because someone is a fan of a team they are automatically intelligent?? Yikes you have nothing in the argument except for mins played lmao and I just showed you the mins played aswell.. kris Russell avg 2nd most for icetime he must be the 2nd best dman in the 1st round


No, but he watches them every night. I think its pretty clear that you’re more of a stat sheet guy, seeing as how anyone that watches that team consistently knows what he is. I tried to put a number on it for ya to help you out.
Jun. 4, 2021 at 1:26 a.m.
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Oh word. I was talking about playing hockey though. Not your xgfa nonsense


Makes sense. You must listen to Pierre McGuire to know if a player is good or not.
Jun. 4, 2021 at 1:39 a.m.
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No, but he watches them every night. I think its pretty clear that you’re more of a stat sheet guy, seeing as how anyone that watches that team consistently knows what he is. I tried to put a number on it for ya to help you out.


You went off of only mins played😂😂😂 I told you actual stats and said the eye test matches
Jun. 4, 2021 at 9:23 a.m.
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You went off of only mins played😂😂😂 I told you actual stats and said the eye test matches


Stats like what?
There really isn’t a number that quantifies what a defensemen does. I tried to dumb it down for you because, well, seemed like you needed it. I’ve dumbed it down as much as i can, and you still just choose to use laughing face emojis and “lol,” instead of adding anything of substance, so I’m going to assume you’re a teenager, and just move on from this.
Jun. 4, 2021 at 9:24 a.m.
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Quoting: Jah1722
Makes sense. You must listen to Pierre McGuire to know if a player is good or not.


Or, to know if a player is a good or not...this is outside the box...i watch them play hockey.

Try it.
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