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Created by: bobermay
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 3, 2021
Published: Jun. 3, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$750,000
1$750,000
7$7,200,000
1$1,200,000
2$1,600,000
2$1,500,000
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  1. 2021 5th round pick (NJD)
  2. 2022 6th round pick (TOR)
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TOR
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (SEA)
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2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$80,334,783$0$400,000$1,165,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 3
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 4
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 3
$1,600,000$1,600,000
C, LW
UFA - 6
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
RW
RFA - 2
$750,000$750,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$825,000$825,000
C
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
$7,200,000$7,200,000
RD
UFA - 7
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$725,000$725,000
C
UFA - 1

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Jun. 4, 2021 at 10:05 a.m.
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Hurricane Waddell
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This has been my favorite post in a while.

My final point...relying on analytics to judge the Hurricanes players is an inherent mistake. For the way the Canes play (and any other team who plays a similar style), the advanced analytic numbers will lead you to wrong conclusions.

Using Analytics alone...who is the better defenseman in the first three game of the TB/CAR series, Dougie Hamilton or Victor Hedman?
Jun. 4, 2021 at 12:47 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Or, to know if a player is a good or not...this is outside the box...i watch them play hockey.

Try it.


Your actually so dumb. Your eyes say Dougie is good. And then the numbers say he’s elite. You should try learn simple math so you can understand the simplistic of stats.

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Stats like what?
There really isn’t a number that quantifies what a defensemen does. I tried to dumb it down for you because, well, seemed like you needed it. I’ve dumbed it down as much as i can, and you still just choose to use laughing face emojis and “lol,” instead of adding anything of substance, so I’m going to assume you’re a teenager, and just move on from this.


Substance? He told you exactly what showed that Dougie was the best Dman on his team and said “but his TOI is a little less so he bad”. Just because you don’t understand stats and hate a player doesn’t make you right.
Jun. 4, 2021 at 12:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Jah1722
Your actually so dumb. Your eyes say Dougie is good. And then the numbers say he’s elite. You should try learn simple math so you can understand the simplistic of stats.



Substance? He told you exactly what showed that Dougie was the best Dman on his team and said “but his TOI is a little less so he bad”. Just because you don’t understand stats and hate a player doesn’t make you right.


No he didn’t. He just said, “dougie good.” Thats it.

The eye test says hamilton is a solid 2nd pair d man thats very very good on the powerplay. Nothing wrong with that.
Jun. 4, 2021 at 12:55 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
No he didn’t. He just said, “dougie good.” Thats it.

The eye test says hamilton is a solid 2nd pair d man thats very very good on the powerplay. Nothing wrong with that.


He gave numbers that showed Dougie is better than Slavin but because you’re too dumb to understand them you said “but he’s TOI”.

You should get your eyes checked out.
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Jun. 4, 2021 at 12:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Jah1722
He gave numbers that showed Dougie is better than Slavin but because you’re too dumb to understand them you said “but he’s TOI”.

You should get your eyes checked out.


What numbers?
Jun. 4, 2021 at 1:12 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Stats like what?
There really isn’t a number that quantifies what a defensemen does. I tried to dumb it down for you because, well, seemed like you needed it. I’ve dumbed it down as much as i can, and you still just choose to use laughing face emojis and “lol,” instead of adding anything of substance, so I’m going to assume you’re a teenager, and just move on from this.


I showed you who does better.. you simply say who has more avg toi if that’s how you judge a player to see if they are good or not that is a major yikes Derek forbort avg more toi then hedman so he must be a better dman I assume
Jun. 5, 2021 at 2:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
I showed you who does better.. you simply say who has more avg toi if that’s how you judge a player to see if they are good or not that is a major yikes Derek forbort avg more toi then hedman so he must be a better dman I assume


How did you show me who does better?
Jun. 5, 2021 at 4:43 p.m.
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@cheddamonkey37 how do your analytics show for the first goal scored by TB in Game 4? What I saw is 3 failed clearing attempt to clear by Dougie then Dougie missing his defensive assignment right near the net for a wide open tip.
Jun. 5, 2021 at 9:32 p.m.
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@cheddamonkey37 how do your analytics show for the first goal scored by TB in Game 4? What I saw is 3 failed clearing attempt to clear by Dougie then Dougie missing his defensive assignment right near the net for a wide open tip.


You are going off of 1 goal vs a entire season?? Forgot too dman never make a mistake... wow that is absolutely pathetic lmao
Jun. 5, 2021 at 9:56 p.m.
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This is such a dumb analytics vs eye test argument, but I do think it's funny that fans of teams that have had Dougie on them are on the eye test side and fans of other teams are all using analytics.


With that being said, I would take Dougie for this amount. I would take him for up to 8.2M AAV. I honestly think Dougie has been playing scared after his injury last year. I think he is scared to get hurt before hitting UFA. I'm not saying I like that in a player, but I kinda of understand it
Jun. 5, 2021 at 10:30 p.m.
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I asked a question, I didn’t go off. Any my ‘eye test’ isn’t based on one goal. It’s the inconsistency I’ve seen the last three years. The challenge for me is I just can’t get on board with paying the big nut for Dougie, I just don’t see it.

He’d be great at $6-7M, but anything more and there pushing it.

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You are going off of 1 goal vs a entire season?? Forgot too dman never make a mistake... wow that is absolutely pathetic lmao
 
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