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Moving Up

Created by: Devil
Team: 2020-21 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 6, 2021
Published: Jun. 6, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Devils take Hughes at 4
Clarke or Eklund at 9
Trades
NJD
  1. Beagle, Jay
  2. Eriksson, Loui
  3. Holtby, Braden
  4. Roussel, Antoine
  5. 2021 1st round pick (VAN)
Additional Details:
Canucks pick is 9

Canucks clear 16+ mil in cap space and move down 15 spots.

Too much or too little?
VAN
  1. 2021 1st round pick (NYI)
Additional Details:
Isles pick is around 25
Buyouts
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Recapture Fees
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
28$81,500,000$79,267,720$0$4,180,000$2,232,280
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
UFA - 7
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$714,166$714,166 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
RW
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C
UFA - 2
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$809,167$809,167 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
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UFA - 2
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$874,125$874,125
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UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW
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UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
C
RFA - 1
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$811,666$811,666 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$775,833$775,833 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C
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Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
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UFA - 1
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$2,800,000$2,800,000
G
UFA - 3
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$2,822,764$2,822,764
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UFA - 2
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 3
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$800,000$800,000
G
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
G
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$4,300,000$4,300,000
G
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UFA - 2
Taxi Squad
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$775,833$775,833 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Jun. 6, 2021 at 11:35 a.m.
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I don’t see anyone moving in this draft unless it’s 1 or 2 spots
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Jun. 6, 2021 at 11:41 a.m.
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As a Canucks fan, I think it’s a steal for us. Probably makes sense even if you take out Holtby
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Jun. 6, 2021 at 12:35 p.m.
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I am for....any way we can use 2021-22 cap space to move up in draft
My clumsy attempt at something similar, in step-wise approach https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2447329
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Jun. 6, 2021 at 12:36 p.m.
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Dumping 6M cost Toronto a 1st...

Youre trying to dump 16M with 15 spots...
Jun. 6, 2021 at 1:05 p.m.
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Quoting: PLDGEY
Dumping 6M cost Toronto a 1st...

Youre trying to dump 16M with 15 spots...


What's the average cost to move up 15 spots especially from a late 1st round pick into a 10 pick?

Toronto had too move salary Vancouver doesn't.
Toronto was a late 1st for 6.5mil to be boughtout and even then Dubas overpaid

Look at last yr. Detroit got a 2nd for 5.6 mil, Ottawa gave a 2nd for 6.5 avv though the actual salary was 2mil
Jun. 6, 2021 at 1:07 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
I don’t see anyone moving in this draft unless it’s 1 or 2 spots


Benning said he would be willing to move the 9th pick so Im going off of that
Jun. 6, 2021 at 1:08 p.m.
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Quoting: sedin33
As a Canucks fan, I think it’s a steal for us. Probably makes sense even if you take out Holtby


What about taking out one of Roussel or Beagle? Holtby might be useful to the Devils.
Jun. 6, 2021 at 1:10 p.m.
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Quoting: PLDGEY
Dumping 6M cost Toronto a 1st...

Youre trying to dump 16M with 15 spots...


Quoting: pasha123
What's the average cost to move up 15 spots especially from a late 1st round pick into a 10 pick?

Toronto had too move salary Vancouver doesn't.
Toronto was a late 1st for 6.5mil to be boughtout and even then Dubas overpaid

Look at last yr. Detroit got a 2nd for 5.6 mil, Ottawa gave a 2nd for 6.5 avv though the actual salary was 2mil


I wasn't sure if this trade was too much or too little

After the top 12ish, the draft drops off a little in talent.

Maybe Loui, Holbty, 9th pick for Isles pick
Jun. 6, 2021 at 1:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
What about taking out one of Roussel or Beagle? Holtby might be useful to the Devils.


Roussel would be preferred. Beaggle might be on LTIR
Jun. 6, 2021 at 1:27 p.m.
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Quoting: sedin33
Roussel would be preferred. Beaggle might be on LTIR


So Loui + Roussel + 9th pick for Isles pick?
Jun. 6, 2021 at 1:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
So Loui + Roussel + 9th pick for Isles pick?


+Holtby
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Jun. 6, 2021 at 5:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
I wasn't sure if this trade was too much or too little

After the top 12ish, the draft drops off a little in talent.
Maybe Loui, Holbty, 9th pick for Isles pick




Your proposal is actually quite good. To move up that much from a late 1st round pick to a top 10 1st round is about an extra two 2nd round picks, some years (maybe not this) plus maybe a 3rd round or a middling prospect depending on draft depth.

Loui dump is mid 2nd round pick. Holtby may actually fetch a 6th round pick even at his price as he only has 1 year left is not that bad a backup as the Canucks for the most part played horribly last year. If not he could be dumped for a 3rd or even possibly a 4th round pick for the reasons I mentioned. Roussel is a dump and should be no more than a 4th round pick. Beagle most likely will start the year on LTIR and no one knows if he will be able to play at all next year.

So if you took out Beagle the trade is quite fair considering the overall talk is that there is a drop after the top 10 and another after the next 7.
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Jun. 6, 2021 at 10:14 p.m.
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Add Woo, cause why not. We are Van's bank, we are getting stuff but need players worth the cash burn
 
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