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Norris Finalists

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Initial Creation Date: Jun 9, 2021
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Jun 9 at 11:13
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Hughes over Kakko
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Are those the actual norris finalists?

If so who do you think is going to win?
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Jun 9 at 11:14
#2
bhavikp27
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Well, Fox should win it.
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Jun 9 at 11:14
#3
FLA V4 AGM
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Quoting: Macattack29
Are those the actual norris finalists?

If so who do you think is going to win?


Yes these are the actual finalists

I am actually very dissapointed. Martin Marincin should be the unanimous winner. NHL sucks.
Jun 9 at 11:15
#4
Jack Hughes is Elite
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Fill in should win the Norris
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Jun 9 at 11:15
#5
Jack Hughes is Elite
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Well, Fox should win it.


He should win but I doubt he does win
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Jun 9 at 11:18
#6
Hughes over Kakko
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Quoting: BenjaminWalder
Yes these are the actual finalists

I am actually very dissapointed. Martin Marincin should be the unanimous winner. NHL sucks.


Im even more disappointed Matt Tennyson was the best dman in the league by a mile.
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Jun 9 at 11:19
#7
bhavikp27
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Quoting: Devil1122
He should win but I doubt he does win


He had the most points and best +/- among those three. Should be enough.
Jun 9 at 11:20
#8
Onto the next one
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Cody Ceci snubbed.
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Jun 9 at 11:25
#9
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I think Fox does win it, he seem to have the biggest campaign push at the end of the regular season before the voting.
Jun 9 at 11:28
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Quoting: bhavikp27
He had the most points and best +/- among those three. Should be enough.


makar was was a ppg Dman...44 in 44. Fox was 47 in 55 games. when it comes down to Points, I dont think the total is the deciding factor bc if makar didnt miss time he would have ran away with the point total.

Fox does win it but if Makar played 50 games, He probably wins it
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Jun 9 at 11:32
#11
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Quoting: Devil1122
Fill in should win the Norris


Most underrated player in the league imo
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Jun 9 at 11:33
#12
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Quoting: Devil1122
He should win but I doubt he does win


I think Hedman gets it just off reputation
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Jun 9 at 11:37
#13
Dach is Elite
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Quoting: Macattack29
Are those the actual norris finalists?

If so who do you think is going to win?


They’re yet to be announced
Jun 9 at 11:38
#14
bhavikp27
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Quoting: coga16
makar was was a ppg Dman...44 in 44. Fox was 47 in 55 games. when it comes down to Points, I dont think the total is the deciding factor bc if makar didnt miss time he would have ran away with the point total.

Fox does win it but if Makar played 50 games, He probably wins it


Well, I was going with the PHWA's perspective. Personally, I need Makar to be better defensively if he's going to win.
Jun 9 at 11:40
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Well, I was going with the PHWA's perspective. Personally, I need Makar to be better defensively if he's going to win.


makar is solid defensively. Not really lacking in that department. Plus is sneaky physical
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Jun 9 at 11:42
#16
Dach is Elite
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Quoting: coga16
makar is solid defensively. Not really lacking in that department. Plus is sneaky physical
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But they rank it by offence
Jun 9 at 11:43
#17
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Quoting: IconicHawk
But they rank it by offence


not following, what is ranking by offence? Im not posting it bc of the WAR
Jun 9 at 11:44
#18
Dach is Elite
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Quoting: coga16
not following, what is ranking by offence? Im not posting it bc of the WAR


The Norris voting
Jun 9 at 11:48
#19
Jack Hughes is Elite
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Quoting: bhavikp27
He had the most points and best +/- among those three. Should be enough.


I think they'll give it to Hedman based on his reputation and his team success
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Jun 9 at 11:48
#20
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Quoting: IconicHawk
The Norris voting


oh for sure writers are dumb so who knows what they vote on. Some just vote on guys who play in their market. someone gave DeAngelo a 4th place Norris vote, which is the same amount of votes that McAvoy got.

In no way should DeAngelo and McAvoy have the same amount of votes. DeAngelo cant play D to save his life
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Jun 9 at 11:48
#21
bhavikp27
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Quoting: coga16
makar is solid defensively. Not really lacking in that department. Plus is sneaky physical
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Above-average. 59th percentile. Fox: 95, McAvoy: 89. That's what I want (at least 75-80).
Jun 9 at 11:50
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Above-average. 59th percentile. Fox: 95, McAvoy: 89. That's what I want (at least 75-80).


He has better numbers than Hedman this year. Not saying Makar cant improve defensively but he does get a rep that he is just a forward playing D 1 dimensional offensive Dman. No he can handle his own quite well.
Jun 9 at 11:52
#23
Jinx lord
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Quoting: coga16
He has better numbers than Hedman this year. Not saying Makar cant improve defensively but he does get a rep that he is just a forward playing D 1 dimensional offensive Dman. No he can handle his own quite well.


He's gotten way better at defense this year. This year he went from a offensive D to a more complete D. Good for him man.
Jun 9 at 11:55
#24
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
He's gotten way better at defense this year. This year he went from a offensive D to a more complete D. Good for him man.


What could hurt Makar is the fact that he plays on a team with Toews and Girard as well, those guys can steal votes any given year. And he doesnt have to always be the lock down DMan if he can go roaming if Toews is there with him to back him up

Hes better defensively can still get better. Looking back from last year....The Hughes vs Makar debate sure is dead now seeing how each when in opposite directions in their calder+1 seasons
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Jun 9 at 11:58
#25
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I can't really disagree with any of the finalists. Nice to see kids on the list not just the same 6 old guys that rotated yearly.
 
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