Well this makes zero sense plus ur above the cap by 4.5

True. It needs to be as close to the cap without going over on Day 1 of the season before using LTIR.

How does the Kessler contract help? The most he can save you is $6.875M against the cap and he costs $6.875M against the cap. An LTIR contract doesn’t just magically give you extra space.

Having said that, Edmonton would love to get Palat

I believe the league will close the LTIR loophole because of the embarrassment Tampa made it this year. If it had only been 2-5 mil they wouldn't have cared but almost 19 made a complete mockery of the league.

Add a 1st and Hugo Alnefelt
take out 3rd and Raddysh and Seattle will take you cap dump

They tried to close the loophole before. Only the Lightning and Blues voted to get rid of the loop hole so it still remains and I doubt its going anywhere until the next collective bargaining agreement.

If they want that to take on Johnson then I would not make a deal and let them choose who they want and work from there. I was just trying to see what kind of team could be put together by moving Palat and Johnson.

no they wont, they didnt when Chicago used in for P Kane in 2015 to win the cup, or when the leafs acquired all that LTIR money to help them sign Nylander. they wont close it now. Teams have been using the loophole every year

Players are hurt and their medical records are reviewed by the NHL, they arent stashing healthy players on LTIR until playoffs and team doctors arent putting putting their careers on the line falsifying records breaking their hippocratic oath.

Palat only having 1 year I think is the forward to be traded along with Johnson. What would Edmonton give up to get Palat as he is not a cap dump, he is a great player.

All Tampa trades should be depend on who seattle takes and how tampa protects its players
7-3-1 and seattle takes foote
4-4-1 and Seattle takes Gourde

Well if Hedman has to have off season surgery as been rumored and he is not ready at the beginning of the year they would have plenty of room day 1. Then when he returns having the Kesler contract would give them enough room to field a team like this. I am really just trying to figure out how they would construct the team by trading only Palat and Johnson.

Tampa should go 7-3-1 then if they don't work a deal with Seattle. Expose McDonagh. If he is taken that hurts bad as he has been great lately but helps the cap going forward but if they lose Foote to me that is fine, he lacks the foot speed to be more then a 3rd pair guy in my opinion.

Well I think stalock is definitely available and could just be thrown in to the deal. A first is out of the question because you have to get rid of somebody. I’d be okay with a second just because I feel like it’s an excellent fit, though I’d rather a third and maybe a later pick/ lower rated prospect. That would also be more in line with the Nate Schmitt deal last year. Thoughts?

Edit: I read that wrong. I was thinking more for just Palat

in my 7-3-1 Foote and Mcdonagh are exposed, seattle takes Foote and doesnt hinder their franchise with McDonaghs contract.

I love how the Lightning have a rotating sabbatical among players.

I think due to the Lightning needing to move him and he only has a 10 team no list (hopefully Edmonton is not on it) the Lightning could get lucky and get a bidding war for him. So to me I think a second and Stalock would be a reasonable return. Palat is worth a first for sure if not for the situation so I think that is a fare enough compromise for both teams.

It is nice... LOL. Its clear he is injured and I hope its a small surgery as he is the best player on the team.

It will be fun to see how it plays out and the team looks next year but I do believe Johnson and Palat will be gone and they will try to resign Coleman and Goodrow.

BriseBois should have been GM of the year for his cap management. That said, I suspect he didn't get it because of that same cap management.

We will see but I think the league got completely embarrassed with this years cap circumvention by Tampa and are quite upset about it as they try to promote the league pairity as a selling point and say any team can win the cup because if it. In situations like this they really can't say they have the most balanced league in the world of professional sports.

The league isn’t at all s cars added about this, what is there to be embarrassed about? If it was an issue with teams they would have filed grievances at the start of the season.

These are the rules in place and not the first time teams have exploited them. If Montreal was up in the series I don’t think you will be saying this is a bad national embarrassment to the rules as much

You really make it sound like they faked this, players were legit hurt, this isn’t a conspiracy to cheat

1. The league was warning teams at the deadline about using LTIR to gain an advantage. Therefore they likely see the Tampa situation as a must fix loophole.

2. I was calling for a change to the rule way back in the regular season so it has nothing to do with the Habs being down 3-0 in the series.

3. They totally manipulated the timing and there is proof out there. For instance the typical time frame for hip surgery recovery is 2-3 months. He'll a total hip replacement recovery time fora 65 year old diabetic woman is 5 months. I know this for a fact cause in January my mother-in-law had one replaced. Her recovery took about 4.5 months until she was resuming regular daily activities. You can not tell methat a 28 year old professional athlete in the prime of his career and peak physical condition takes longer to recover. He sat for 6+ months and miraculously once the playoffs started had no rust or showed no signs of fatigue in the early part of the post season. Almost like he had been skating and practicing for weeks or even months. Yup totally didn't manipulate the timeline!

1....no they were closely monitoring teams using LTIR to make sure they weren't faking injuries and committing cap circumvention. The League already looked into Tampas medical records and there was no issues.

2...there were only 2 teams that voted in favour of changing it.

3....They are within their rights to schedule surgeries in that manner, there is nothing that permits them from doing so. They still have to play the season without that player in the line up and make the playoffs. The NHL reviewed their medical records and deemed them correct. So Are you saying the NHL actively helped Tampa cheat? Or that Drs lied to help Tampa cheat? Again this is not a conspiracy theory

St Louis legit did the exact same thing to start this season and no one seems to care about them, its just Tampa. Sorry but these are the rules and they are allowed to play within them. Teams have been doing this for a long time now and not a new thing. If the league had issues with it, they would have did something a long time ago.

1. There were at the time but I bet now a lot MORE would vote to change it (See Berry Trotz who voted against it before and called out the league during the playoffs for allowing it).

2. See above....

3. Team doctors are TEAM doctors and employed by the TEAMS. They would absolutely do anything in their power to keep their quite lucrative jobs. Also NOT ALL doctors care about the hypocratic oath. See mob doctors or doctors charged with malpractice.

4. Your arguments are based on the premise that ALL doctors are legit and honest people when in fact not all are.

So team Drs who teams trust multiple million dollar investments in players, they hire they shadiest people to treat t hem and go against their Hippocratic oath and are willing to face losing their license to practice medicine bc they want a hockey team to win the Stanley Cup? They are still Doctors, they are not team DRs their entire careers. They come and go

Dude like com one take some time to think bout how crazy that is, Team Drs are not some grand pawn in a conspiracy theory.....comparing team doctors to Mob doctors....dude like seriously.

They are also not allsaints like you make them out to be. They are people and people take bribes ALL the time. Did it happen here maybe not but there is ABSOLUTELY no way that my mother-in-law recovered from hi replacement surgery in 2 months less time than Kutcherov did from his surgery. Sorry I just don't buy that.