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Created by: ItWasInOhThreeOhFour
Team: 2021-22 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 7, 2021
Published: Jul. 7, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,750,000
2$1,750,000
2$2,500,000
5$6,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,350,000
3$4,000,000
1$900,000
1$1,250,000
Trades
1.
CGY
SEA
  1. Giordano, Mark
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Expansion Draft Selection
2.
CGY
  1. Reinhart, Sam [RFA Rights]
BUF
  1. Zary, Connor
  2. 2021 1st round pick (CGY)
3.
CGY
  1. Marchessault, Jonathan
VGK
  1. Monahan, Sean
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (FLA)
  3. 2022 4th round pick (CGY)
Buyouts
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2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$74,012,500$0$0$7,487,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Tkachuk, Matthew
$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Lindholm, Elias
$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
Reinhart, Sam
$6,750,000$6,750,000
RW
UFA - 3
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Gaudreau, Johnny
$6,750,000$6,750,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Mangiapane, Andrew
$2,425,000$2,425,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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Backlund, Mikael
$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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Marchessault, Jonathan
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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Lucic, Milan
$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Granlund, Mikael
$4,000,000$4,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
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Dubé, Dillon
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 3
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Froese, Byron
$725,000$725,000
C
UFA - 1
Perry, Corey
$900,000$900,000
RW
UFA - 2
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Hanifin, Noah
$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
UFA - 3
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Andersson, Rasmus
$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 5
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Markström, Jacob
$6,000,000$6,000,000
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NMC
UFA - 5
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Välimäki, Juuso
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
RFA - 2
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Tanev, Christopher
$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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Mackey, Connor
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD
UFA - 2
Bernier, Jonathan
$1,250,000$1,250,000
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UFA - 2
Oleksiak, Jamie
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UFA - 5

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Jul. 7, 2021 at 10:13 p.m.
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Alfie11
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if we’re giving up 12oa for reinhart we’re not adding zary. Maybe a 2nd next year and edmonton’s 3rd or something
Jul. 7, 2021 at 10:15 p.m.
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I say no to Mangiapane playing 3rd line
Jul. 7, 2021 at 10:15 p.m.
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ItWasInOhThreeOhFour
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I've tried trades in the past for Reinhart and everyone cries that I don't value him enough. I figured 2 - 1sts no one can say $!#& about it. I agree its probably an over-payment though for sure.
Jul. 7, 2021 at 10:16 p.m.
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Who says no? Flames, Vegas and M NTC Marchessault, plus Olesiak, Perry, and Bernier.
Jul. 7, 2021 at 10:16 p.m.
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Quoting: TheLamb9
I say no to Mangiapane playing 3rd line


Where do you slot Mang in then?
Jul. 7, 2021 at 10:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Alfie11
if we’re giving up 12oa for reinhart we’re not adding zary. Maybe a 2nd next year and edmonton’s 3rd or something


I've tried trades in the past for Reinhart and everyone cries that I don't value him enough. I figured 2 - 1sts no one can say $!#& about it. I agree its probably an over-payment though for sure.
Jul. 7, 2021 at 10:17 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Who says no? Flames, Vegas and M NTC Marchessault, plus Olesiak, Perry, and Bernier.


^ This guy sucks
Jul. 7, 2021 at 10:20 p.m.
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Quoting: ItWasInOhThreeOhFour
Where do you slot Mang in then?


Gaudreau-Lindholm-Tkachuk
Mangiapane-Reinhart-Marchessault

Or swap tkachuk and marchessault
Jul. 7, 2021 at 10:21 p.m.
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Valimaki, Dube and Mackey will all end up at or very near their qualifying offers
Jul. 7, 2021 at 10:24 p.m.
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Quoting: TheLamb9
Gaudreau-Lindholm-Tkachuk
Mangiapane-Reinhart-Marchessault

Or swap tkachuk and marchessault


Can definitely see that. Lines aren't set in stone, would be up to Sutter. I'm just trying to GM.
Jul. 7, 2021 at 10:24 p.m.
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Valimaki, Dube and Mackey will all end up at or very near their qualifying offers


^Very good point
Jul. 7, 2021 at 10:25 p.m.
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^Very good point


That would buy you some breathing room.

That's how Treliving has done business. He pays the star RFA's, but for those that aren't stars, they take their QO. Kulak and Mangiapane being the most recent examples
Jul. 7, 2021 at 10:26 p.m.
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This Buffalo fan accepts!
Jul. 7, 2021 at 10:38 p.m.
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ItWasInOhThreeOhFour
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Edited Jul. 7, 2021 at 10:45 p.m.
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That would buy you some breathing room.

That's how Treliving has done business. He pays the star RFA's, but for those that aren't stars, they take their QO. Kulak and Mangiapane being the most recent examples


Agreed, Tre drives a hard bargain - specifically as you said with RFA's. So maybe we find ourselves with 1-2 mill extra wiggle room. Every little bit will count this year and possibly next.
Jul. 7, 2021 at 10:40 p.m.
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This Buffalo fan accepts!


FINALLY!!

Thoughts about Alfie11's offer of 2021 12th OA, 2021 3rd rd. & 2022 2nd rd.? Does it really need to be 2, 1st rd. picks to get a Reinhart deal done?
Jul. 7, 2021 at 10:41 p.m.
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Agreed, Tre drives a hard bargain - specifically as you said with RFA's. So maybe we find ourselves with 1-2 mill extra wiggle room. Every little bit will count this year and possible next.


I have no idea what this offseason will look like for the Flames.

I'm in the rebuild camp, but it won't happen. The earliest it could be happen would be next year if 21/22 goes poorly.

I think they need to make Gaudreau their best offer. If he doesn't take it, they have to trade him. Can't risk him going into the season unsigned. All it takes is a freak injury and your best asset may fetch you nothing
Jul. 8, 2021 at 12:55 a.m.
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Quoting: ItWasInOhThreeOhFour
I've tried trades in the past for Reinhart and everyone cries that I don't value him enough. I figured 2 - 1sts no one can say $!#& about it. I agree its probably an over-payment though for sure.


Yea not many people realize how good Sam Reinhart actually is. He’s worth 12OA and Zary
 
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