Eichel and Zibanejad

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Created by: Raggy

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 15, 2021

Published: Jul. 15, 2021

Team: 2022-23 New York Rangers

Team Explanation

Just messing around to see how it would work, don't think it's likely to able to get and keep both. Zibanejad probably 8+ mill a year but may take slight discount with higher term.

Gotta clear cap by moving Buch and give up young assets for Eichel.

Connor Brown trade really just for theory. Moving Buch for a less skilled but cheaper and cost controlled middle 6 winger.

By the time Kakko, Laf, Nils, Miller all need $, Kreider will no longer have a full NMC. Use that money and move other veteran depth if needed.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Shesterkin, Igor	4	$4,000,000
Howden, Brett	1	$900,000
Fox, Adam	8	$7,000,000
Chytil, Filip	2	$2,500,000
Buchnevich, Pavel	7	$5,500,000
Kakko, Kaapo	3	$3,000,000
Kravtsov, Vitali	2	$2,500,000
Hájek, Libor	2	$850,000
Gauthier, Julien	2	$950,000
Gettinger, Tim	2	$800,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Zibanejad, Mika	7	$7,500,000
Blackwell, Colin	3	$2,000,000
Rooney, Kevin	3	$2,000,000
Martinook, Jordan	4	$2,500,000
Kinkaid, Keith	2	$900,000

Trades

NYR

Eichel, Jack

BUF

Chytil, Filip
Kravtsov, Vitali
Jones, Zachary
2021 1st round pick (NYR)

NYR

SEA

Howden, Brett

NYR

Brown, Connor
2021 2nd round pick (OTT)
2022 3rd round pick (BOS)

OTT

Buchnevich, Pavel

Buyouts

Kevin Shattenkirk: $1,433,333
Dan Girardi: $1,111,111
Brad Richards: $0

DRAFT YEAR	ROUND 1	ROUND 2	ROUND 3	ROUND 4	ROUND 5	ROUND 6	ROUND 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$81,412,301	$0	$5,350,000	$87,699

Left Wing	Center	Right Wing
Panarin, Artemi $11,642,857 LW NMC UFA - 4	Eichel, Jack $10,000,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Kakko, Kaapo $3,000,000 RW RFA
Lafrenière, Alexis $925,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Zibanejad, Mika $7,500,000 C NMC UFA - 8	Gauthier, Julien $950,000 RW RFA
Kreider, Chris $6,500,000 LW NMC UFA - 5	Rooney, Kevin $2,000,000 LW, C, RW UFA	Brown, Connor $3,600,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Martinook, Jordan $2,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Barron, Morgan $925,000 C RFA - 1	Blackwell, Colin $2,000,000 C, RW UFA
Gettinger, Tim $800,000 LW, RW RFA

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Lindgren, Ryan $3,000,000 LD RFA - 2	Fox, Adam $7,000,000 RD UFA - 7	Shesterkin, Igor $4,000,000 G UFA - 3
Miller, K'Andre $925,000 LD RFA - 1	Trouba, Jacob $8,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 4	Kinkaid, Keith $900,000 G UFA
Schneider, Braden $925,000 RD RFA - 2	Lundkvist, Nils $925,000 RD RFA - 2
Hájek, Libor $850,000 LD RFA

Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:13 a.m.

habs_need_Scoring

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I honestly think theres no reason the rangers shouldnt land eichel for wte it costs, Him paired with Panarin would be filthy on the top line. That being said, given the interest around the league in Eichel i think the offer is an obvious one and it starts with Kakko and this years 1st

Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:15 a.m.

Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

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Buffalo would need Lafreniere to give up Eichel.

Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:15 a.m.

Jfstompers

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I dont think you get eichel without one high end forward going back. It can't be all futures.

Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:15 a.m.

Raggy

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Raggy

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Quoting: habs_need_Scoring

I don't think the Rangers should go for Eichel unless they know Zibanejad is asking for 8.5+.

As for the Eichel trade, all rumors have them lowering their price and I don't think they are going to get an offer that people think they might. Sabres have little to no leverage right now.

Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:16 a.m.

Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

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Quoting: habs_need_Scoring

Kakko is looking more and more like a bust. I don't think he cuts it.

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Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:16 a.m.

Raggy

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Quoting: Jfstompers

I dont think you get eichel without one high end forward going back. It can't be all futures.

All reports are sabres want futures and youth.

Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:16 a.m.

Raggy

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Buffalo would need Lafreniere to give up Eichel.

That's just simply not true.

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Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:17 a.m.

Devil

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That won't be enough for Eichel and why does the Norris winner take 7M?

Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:17 a.m.

Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

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Quoting: Raggy

Their leverage is that they have an franchise player under contract for 5 more years at a fair cap hit.

Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:18 a.m.

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Raggy

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Quoting: Devil1122

That won't be enough for Eichel and why does the Norris winner take 7M?

Because he forced himself to the Rangers as it's the only team he wanted to play for? I have no idea what he is going to ask but he's definitely going to give the Rangers some sort of discount.

Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:19 a.m.

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Raggy

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Their leverage is that they have an franchise player under contract for 5 more years at a fair cap hit.

10 million with a neck injury is not what I would call a fair cap hit. Very public and messy breakup between the team and player usually doesn't lead to maximizing return.

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Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:19 a.m.

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Quoting: Raggy

That's just simply not true.

From the NYR.

Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:21 a.m.

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Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

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Quoting: Raggy

10 million with a neck injury is not what I would call a fair cap hit. Very public and messy breakup between the team and player usually doesn't lead to maximizing return.

Then why are you wanting him if he's 'injured and overpaid'?

Buffalo doesn't even trade him for Lafreniere if he doesn't want to leave.

Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:23 a.m.

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Raggy

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Then why are you wanting him if he's 'injured and overpaid'?

Buffalo doesn't even trade him for Lafreniere if he doesn't want to leave.

But he does want to leave and he's injured. They are going to trade him at the worst possible time. Read the description, I was just seeing how it could work out to keep both. I don't trade for Eichel unless Zibanejad is asking for too much $.

Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:28 a.m.

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Quoting: Raggy

I'm not saying the NYR don't have the pieces to make a deal. They do... but the offer you made isn't close.

Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:29 a.m.

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Quoting: Raggy

Because he forced himself to the Rangers as it's the only team he wanted to play for? I have no idea what he is going to ask but he's definitely going to give the Rangers some sort of discount.

I do think he'll give them a discount but not that big of a discount. 8M at minimum. He'll most likely get 9.5M

Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:30 a.m.

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Raggy

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

I'm not saying the NYR don't have the pieces to make a deal. They do... but the offer you made isn't close.

They very well need to add more, but it's not the price you and some are saying. 0% chance Lafreniere is in that trade. Swap Kakko in maybe, or add Buch to it.

Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:31 a.m.

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Raggy

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Quoting: Devil1122

I do think he'll give them a discount but not that big of a discount. 8M at minimum. He'll most likely get 9.5M

Hard to tell, wouldn't be surprised any dollar amount. I was figuring he would be seeking 8-9 mill, gives 7 mill for 8 year deal with NMC.

Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:40 a.m.

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saysthemachine

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Then why are you wanting him if he's 'injured and overpaid'?

Buffalo doesn't even trade him for Lafreniere if he doesn't want to leave.

We don't want him

Jul. 15, 2021 at 1:02 p.m.

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TheBoyDuddus

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Pass on the Buch trade. Ottawa needs C, RW & RD. Trading from a position of weakness to acquire a LW and bolster their biggest strength doesn’t make much sense.

Jul. 15, 2021 at 1:09 p.m.

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hockeyryan_55

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Quoting: TheBoyDuddus

Pass on the Buch trade. Ottawa needs C, RW & RD. Trading from a position of weakness to acquire a LW and bolster their biggest strength doesn’t make much sense.

Buch plays RW

Jul. 15, 2021 at 1:42 p.m.

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Forbesy

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Kakko is looking more and more like a bust. I don't think he cuts it.

I think you're being a little harsh there. The kid is 20 years old and has scored my goals then anyone in his draft class, and is 2nd in points. Barzal, Sheifele, and Giroux were all in junior hockey at Kakkos ago. Also, the kid has already turned into a terrific 200foot player which signals that he is mature and understands the NHL game. Let's give the kid some time to figure it out. I think he is gunna turn into a great player.

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Jul. 15, 2021 at 2:17 p.m.

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TheBoyDuddus

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Quoting: hockeyryan_55

Buch plays RW

He’s a left shot. Ottawa only has a handful of players that shoot right a the moment. Point still stands about trading right shot wingers for left shot wingers.

If Stuetzle and Norris are the top 6 centres, they’re both left shots as well. Having a top line that all shot the same way isn’t ideal. Not the end of the world but I’m sure there’s a better fit somewhere else.

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Jul. 15, 2021 at 2:30 p.m.

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Raggy

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Quoting: TheBoyDuddus

Pass on the Buch trade. Ottawa needs C, RW & RD. Trading from a position of weakness to acquire a LW and bolster their biggest strength doesn’t make much sense.

Completely fair if Ottawa doesn't think it's a fit, more of a Rangers trade in theory. Point I was looking for was a cheaper middle 6 winger to plug in to move Buch, Connor Brown type of player.

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