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Lou Playing Wargames Over Here

Created by: ALjet12
Initial Creation Date: Jul 18, 2021
Published: Jul 18 at 10:32
Team: 2021-22 New York Islanders
Team Explanation
Exposed: Eberle Bailey,MDC,Bellows,Komarov,Greene,Koivula,Hickey and Panik
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Pelech, Adam4$4,500,000
Beauvillier, Anthony4$4,000,000
Sorokin, Ilya1$2,800,000
Bellows, Kieffer1$925,000
Koivula, Otto1$750,000
Golyshev, Anatoly1$925,000
Dal Colle, Michael1$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Landeskog, Gabriel6$8,500,000
McCabe, Jake2$3,000,000
Cizikas, Casey5$2,800,000
Trades
NYI
    OTT
    1. Hickey, Thomas ($500,000 retained)
    2. Komarov, Leo
    3. 2021 2nd round pick (EDM)
    4. 2021 3rd round pick (NYI)
    NYI
      SEA
      1. Bellows, Kieffer
      2. Eberle, Jordan
      Buyouts
      • Rick DiPietro: $0
      Retained Salary Transactions
      • Thomas Hickey: $500,000 (20%)
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2021
      NYI
      NYI
      NYI
      NYI
      2022
      NYI
      COL
      NYI
      NYI
      NYI
      2023
      NYI
      NYI
      NYI
      NYI
      NYI
      NYI
      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
      22$81,500,000$79,479,188$1,365,854$1,325,000$2,020,812
      Left WingCenterRight Wing
      NYI
      Lee, Anders
      $7,000,000
      LW, C
      NTC
      UFA - 5
      NYI
      Barzal, Mathew
      $7,000,000
      C
      RFA - 2
      Landeskog, Gabriel
      $8,500,000
      LW, C
      NMC
      UFA - 8
      NYI
      Beauvillier, Anthony
      $4,000,000
      LW
      UFA - 3
      NYI
      Nelson, Brock
      $6,000,000
      C, LW
      NTC
      UFA - 4
      NYI
      Wahlstrom, Oliver
      $894,167
      C, RW
      RFA - 2
      NYI
      Pánik, Richard
      $1,375,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 2
      NYI
      Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
      $5,000,000
      C
      NTC
      UFA - 5
      NYI
      Bailey, Josh
      $5,000,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 3
      NYI
      Martin, Matt
      $1,500,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 3
      NYI
      Cizikas, Casey
      $2,800,000
      C
      UFA - 6
      NYI
      Clutterbuck, Cal
      $3,500,000
      RW
      UFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      NYI
      Pelech, Adam
      $4,500,000
      LD
      UFA - 8
      NYI
      Pulock, Ryan
      $5,000,000
      RD
      UFA - 1
      NYI
      Varlamov, Semyon
      $5,000,000
      G
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      McCabe, Jake
      $3,000,000
      LD
      NTC
      UFA - 4
      NYI
      Mayfield, Scott
      $1,450,000
      RD
      UFA - 2
      NYI
      Sorokin, Ilya
      $2,800,000
      G
      UFA - 3
      NYI
      Greene, Andy
      $750,000
      LD/RD
      UFA - 1
      NYI
      Dobson, Noah
      $894,167
      RD
      RFA - 1
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
      NYI
      Aho, Sebastian
      $725,000
      LD
      RFA - 1
      NYI
      Boychuk, Johnny
      $6,000,000
      RD
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      NYI
      Golyshev, Anatoly
      $925,000
      LW, RW
      RFA

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      Jul 18 at 10:34
      #1
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      Just daring seattle to take a salary
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      Jul 18 at 10:44
      #2
      CHI NYI
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      We were doing so well…
      Jul 18 at 10:45
      #3
      Isles7
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      Quoting: ForsbergForVezina
      We were doing so well…


      At this point I just hope there’s no side deal. Just let them take either bailey or eberle
      Jul 18 at 10:53
      #4
      Isles555
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      Quoting: linehan10
      Just daring seattle to take a salary


      Quoting: ForsbergForVezina
      We were doing so well…


      Quoting: Isles777
      At this point I just hope there’s no side deal. Just let them take either bailey or eberle


      Maybe I’m overthinking it but is it possible it doesn’t make a difference here cause we could say leave eberle open for you to select and we send a pick and prospect or two for you to select tarasenko (or Dunn etc) and trade him to us immediately following the selection?
      Jul 18 at 10:56
      #5
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      ALjet12
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      Quoting: TheWhiteWhale
      Maybe I’m overthinking it but is it possible it doesn’t make a difference here cause we could say leave eberle open for you to select and we send a pick and prospect or two for you to select tarasenko (or Dunn etc) and trade him to us immediately following the selection?


      I wish
      Jul 18 at 10:58
      #6
      Isles7
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      Quoting: TheWhiteWhale
      Maybe I’m overthinking it but is it possible it doesn’t make a difference here cause we could say leave eberle open for you to select and we send a pick and prospect or two for you to select tarasenko (or Dunn etc) and trade him to us immediately following the selection?


      yeah but if that pick is the 2022 1st that's reckless
      Jul 18 at 10:59
      #7
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      ALjet12
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      Quoting: Isles777
      yeah but if that pick is the 2022 1st that's reckless


      Nah a package of 2nd ,Eberle and Bellows would do it
      Jul 18 at 11:00
      #8
      Isles7
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      Quoting: ALjet12
      Nah a package of 2nd ,Eberle and Bellows would do it


      I doubt it - Francis is going to fleece teams. He's not doing anyone favors
      Jul 18 at 11:01
      #9
      Isles555
      Joined: Jul 2020
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      Quoting: ALjet12
      Nah a package of 2nd ,Eberle and Bellows would do it


      Quoting: Isles777
      I doubt it - Francis is going to fleece teams. He's not doing anyone favors


      The argument here would be that ur willing to move eberle cause he has value and there was value in allowing them to select him I think Wilde would also need to go in the trade and maybe more but the 22 1st would be off the table for me too
      Jul 18 at 11:08
      #10
      Isles7
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      Quoting: TheWhiteWhale
      The argument here would be that ur willing to move eberle cause he has value and there was value in allowing them to select him I think Wilde would also need to go in the trade and maybe more but the 22 1st would be off the table for me too

      Gotta get rid of this guy. He sucks


      Jul 18 at 11:10
      #11
      Isles555
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      Quoting: Isles777
      Gotta get rid of this guy. He sucks




      I’m not saying he sucks I think he’d fit on the second line great but the first line needs a different type of player that’s my whole point there
      Jul 18 at 11:11
      #12
      Isles7
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      Quoting: TheWhiteWhale
      I’m not saying he sucks I think he’d fit on the second line great but the first line needs a different type of player that’s my whole point there


      Tarasenko isn’t a 1st line player. The only upgrade over eberle potentially available is Landeskog
      Jul 18 at 11:12
      #13
      Isles7
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      Quoting: TheWhiteWhale
      I’m not saying he sucks I think he’d fit on the second line great but the first line needs a different type of player that’s my whole point there


      Eberle has had a 1st line impact the past two seasons
      Jul 18 at 11:20
      #14
      CHI NYI
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      Quoting: TheWhiteWhale
      Maybe I’m overthinking it but is it possible it doesn’t make a difference here cause we could say leave eberle open for you to select and we send a pick and prospect or two for you to select tarasenko (or Dunn etc) and trade him to us immediately following the selection?


      You're overthinking.
      Jul 18 at 11:21
      #15
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      ALjet12
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      Quoting: Isles777
      Eberle has had a 1st line impact the past two seasons


      IF It was to go after Landy at 8.5 million per year would you give up Eberle
      Jul 18 at 11:26
      #16
      Isles7
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      Quoting: ALjet12
      IF It was to go after Landy at 8.5 million per year would you give up Eberle


      Yes. That’s the only way it makes sense
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      Jul 18 at 11:26
      #17
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      Quoting: Isles777
      At this point I just hope there’s no side deal. Just let them take either bailey or eberle


      Could be the best move tbh. We've finally broken even on draft capital and I do feel good about Wahlstrom being able to replace Eberle eventually, just not this season. While not as effective as Eberle, Bailey did have okay impacts on the top line with Lee and Barzal this year (better goal share, with lower, but still strong Corsi and xG shares). Assuming he stays, we could have Bailey, Wahlstrom, Golyshev and Clutterbuck down the right side and be okay.
      Jul 18 at 11:33
      #18
      Isles7
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      Quoting: ForsbergForVezina
      Could be the best move tbh. We've finally broken even on draft capital and I do feel good about Wahlstrom being able to replace Eberle eventually, just not this season. While not as effective as Eberle, Bailey did have okay impacts on the top line with Lee and Barzal this year (better goal share, with lower, but still strong Corsi and xG shares). Assuming he stays, we could have Bailey, Wahlstrom, Golyshev and Clutterbuck down the right side and be okay.


      I personally think Lou is going after Landeskog. Also I think that Wahlstrom is good enough to have a similar impact as Eberle next season. He's well above average in xGA/60 and CA/60 and clearly he's already a borderline elite finisher. He'll never drive play as well as eberle but he'll increase the rate the isles score goals better especially if he's on a line with Barzal.
      Jul 18 at 11:42
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      Locally confirmed Landeskog is asking the Avs for 8x$9-10M. Good luck getting him to accept that deal.
      Jul 18 at 12:33
      #20
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      ALjet12
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      Quoting: Xqb15a
      Locally confirmed Landeskog is asking the Avs for 8x$9-10M. Good luck getting him to accept that deal.


      Bro how is anyone going to pay him 9-10 million no one has that money in a cap strapped league. I could see him go to Lou's Isles at 8.5 . More likely he just stay in Ave's land for the 7.7 million range
      Jul 18 at 12:37
      #21
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      Quoting: ALjet12
      Bro how is anyone going to pay him 9-10 million no one has that money in a cap strapped league. I could see him go to Lou's Isles at 8.5 . More likely he just stay in Ave's land for the 7.7 million range

      I’m just saying what was confirmed locally in what he is asking the Avs. Yeah my mind was blown that he would even ask for that.
      Jul 18 at 12:40
      #22
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      ALjet12
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      Quoting: Xqb15a
      I’m just saying what was confirmed locally in what he is asking the Avs. Yeah my mind was blown that he would even ask for that.


      He might be the Ave fifth valuable player no way he is getting that much, Avs might just go out in Free Agency and pick up Hyman if Landy won't resign
      Jul 18 at 12:46
      #23
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      Quoting: ALjet12
      He might be the Ave fifth valuable player no way he is getting that much, Avs might just go out in Free Agency and pick up Hyman if Landy won't resign


      I’m not arguing I’m just saying what is out there for what he is asking. If that is truly the case COL should move along, they could sign 2 guys for that.
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      Jul 18 at 12:49
      #24
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      ALjet12
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      Quoting: Xqb15a
      I’m not arguing I’m just saying what is out there for what he is asking. If that is truly the case COL should move along, they could sign 2 guys for that.


      definitively
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