So I know Evolving Hockey projections are usually pretty close...but I’m feeling sticker shock over that Kahk contract. Is that not high?

Let's imagine the cap goes to 84.5m, then they are over 4.7m. Trade Dumba and Soucy with no cap returned. now Wild have 4m in cap space.....Two 2m Dman completes the roster.
But it looks like the Wild of 22/23 won't be as good as the 21/22 version

Simpler path may be to get Kaprizov to sign bridge deal....$6m x 2 years
Trade Dumba, promote Addison or Mennell.

No chance Kahokanen gets that deal. If Kirill signs that deal, I’m all in. But it doesn’t change that we can pick 2 of Fiala/Dumba/Kirill, it’ll be a tough choice but I think you need to make that decision this off-season to maximize value.

Two other notes, if you are going to pay Greenway 2.6 to play on the 4th line then you need to trade him. A 4th line wing should never make more than a mil. Same with a 3rd pairing D. Cole at 3 mil is not worth it unless he plays up in the lineup.

Interesting idea here though.

Even simpler path... Seattle takes Kahkonen. There's 3.5M off your cap when you call up Hunter Jones.

Kahk only makes 750k this year and next. And Jones is a massive question mark.

Of course....
Totally forgot Seattle pick.

- 3.5 Kahk
- 3.0 Kap bridge deal
- 2.6 Greenway traded

gets pretty close

Or

- 5.0 Dumba swapped for ELC
- 1.7 Soucy traded for ELC
- 3.0 Kaprizov bridge deal

(if Seattle doesn't selection Kahkonen)

Wild aren't bringing Kaprizov

Yeah, wild should trade their young top 4 d's for elc for no reason at all . Makes no sense

It makes sense because the Wild have a ton of dead money in coming years and will not be able to afford everyone

2021-22: $4.7m
2022-23: $12.7m
2023-24: $14.7m
2024-25: $14.7m

No it really doesn't. You are just looking for ways to make wild worse

I don't think we're going to be able to afford Greenway s next contract. So we should probably trade him at some point.

Trading Dumba will likely happen before his next contract too. There's no way we'll pay him another 6M, let alone 8M if he finds his 30g/year stride.

I mean new Jersey fan is one of those who like to troll wild proposals. he has made numerous Kevin fiala trades with horrible proposals and has been called out for it numerous times. Here is saying wild should get rid of two top 4 dman in soucy. Other wild fans have called him out

Ok sure, maybe. But you know I'm not. I do honestly think Greenway and Dumba get traded for futures either this year or next. Also, if GMBG wants to add salary for a long term center, he'll need to trade Fiala. We can't afford everyone.

Not that I'd have a problem with moving on from Greenway, but I don't think his next contract is going to be worth that much. His assist numbers were way overinflated this season because of Ek and Foligno, but he can't score goals, he doesn't have nearly the defensive game Ek does, and he can't play center. Luckily we have another season to gauge his value, but he's not getting anything close to 5M long term like Ek did. I would put his numbers at 4M max for no more than 4-5 years. I'd even say it comes in closer to 3.5M.

Agreed

Yeah, Hunter is a compete unknown. I was just thinking if Kahk gets taken by the Kraken what would we do. Calling up Jones is one option or signing a backup for 1-2M would be alot cheaper than paying Kahn 4.5M in 2022.

We'd have to sign a guy. Jones is NOT ready for the NHL. But Kahkonen is also not getting 4.5M if Seattle doesn't take him. That's a ridiculous contract for him, even if he has a great year this year.

Easy answer is we sign a vet back up for 1 mil, or a guy that wants to rehab his image behind our d corps. I don’t think losing Kahk changes the future of MIN goaltending because I don’t think they projected him to be “the guy”.

That said, I think they are very seriously looking into Cossa and will draft a goalie with one of their top 5 picks this year at the very least. Perhaps we get a young goalie via trade of Jones develops. It’s very much up in the air.

I have made two Fiala trades ever.
Both I thought were very fair.

1) Couturier to MIN along with Zacha, Boqvist while giving up Fiala and Dumba (before expansion lists were made and before Suter was bought out)

2) Kuokkanen, Merkley, 1st, 3rd for Fiala.

There are two Wild fans that have been following me around from thread to thread, saying things like Kuokkanen has zero value, Miles Wood would not make the Wild roster and other BS. It is all a bit tiresome.

My experiences up until now with Wild fans has been great. But these two are poor representatives of the smart, good-natured Wild fan-base.

I'm sorry to hear that. It's so easy to mark people as "ignore" on this site I'd prefer if we did that rather than follow people around.

That being said.... Trade #1 is clearly fair to me. Especially at the time you proposed it. Trade #2 is hard to evaluate because I've never seen the players, but Kuokkanen seems like he had a decent year and I think trading for futures is always hard to balance.

Yeah man, I think your values for Fiala are pretty decent. I like the fit there and the fact that if they move him he’ll be in the East. Anybody saying Kuokannen isn’t valuable doesn’t really have a grasp on prospects, I’d ask Boqvist but that’s me.

As for the Wood thing, the Wild have a lot of middle to bottom 6 guys. It’s not that Wood is bad, he’d just be redundant on the Wild.

No one is following him around. He posts a thread about the Wild, Wild fans show up. That's how this works.

Oh don't say that, come on now. You're looking at two 23 year old bottom/middle six wingers as if they're something to target in a Fiala trade. It's not a good look.

I never said it’s a target, it’s about getting value. Priority number one is keeping Fiala, but if you can’t then you need to get the most value you can for him.

As for Kuokannen, he’s shown consistent production through his development and posted a half point per game first season in the NHL playing on a relatively bad team. He’s not my pick of guys to get from NJD but you could certainly do worse.