Not very good at all. Especially with dumba now being kept,,eichel has to be out. Russo reported wild want Christian from Arizona

IF we get Eichel, I'd anticipate Fiala being one of the pieces going back. That way, the cap is still possible to manage in years 2-4. We would still need to move Dumba and/or Zuccarello next year though. We can't afford to get Eichel on top of Kaprizov and Fiala though, that just doesn't work. So what that means is it's not going to be a deal like Rossi/Boldy++, which probably means our chances of getting him aren't very good.

Gotcha gotcha. I'm just trying to wrap my head around the whole cap situation with Parise and Suter being bought out. So If you got Dvorak at $4.5 mil, and Kirill at $8.5 mil, and then Fiala resigns at $6 mil, you're around $19-20 mil in those 3 guys with $6 mil in cap space to play.

Maybe you guys can answer this for me: How would that affect you next year in 2022? Cuz i'm looking at capfriendly and it says you'll have roughly the same cap space this offseason as next offseason. But next offseason you'll only have $6 mil to work with and only 12 guys technically rostered. Is the fix just like bringing rookies up/guys on minimum contracts?

Again, not the most knowledgable with the Wild, but i feel like that situation would worry me next year, hence why i figured there was a minor cap problem coming up.

Lots of time to make moves between now and then. My guess is that both Dumba and Zuccarello end up being traded, regardless of what we do. That said, Fiala also might be traded if they plan to go out and get some more centers. Boldy and Rossi should be contributors on cheap contracts, as well as Addison, for the next several years. We're losing about 8M in cap space from this coming season to the next season, so in theory, just losing Rask and trading Dumba and Zuccarello should cover it, even if we were to get Dvorak.

Kaprizov 8 - Dvorak 4.5 - X
Boldy .9 - Ek 5.25 - Fiala 6.5
Foligno 3.1 - Rossi .9 - Hartman 1.7
X - Sturm 1 - Bjugstad .9

Brodin 6 - Spurgeon 7.5
X - Addison .8
X - X

Talbot 3.67
X

So that's about a hair over 64M, 17M left for a 4,5,6D, a top 6 W, and a bottom 6 W, and a backup G. That's manageable.

Nope, I avoided that question because it was a silly one.

But since you asked -

I would not offer this package for
Landeskog (UFA)
Gaudreau
Forsberg
Konecny

I would offer it for
Nylander
Boeser

This package not enough for
Ehlers
Barzal
Svechnikov
Tkachuk
DeBrincat

Hischier 1-for-1 for Fiala?
If you think that is a fair offer, post in an ACGM.
And I can respond there.

I put a good faith proposal here....with the specific goal of joining three Swiss players together. Really just for fun.

Unfortunately, some other Wild fans have to fill up these threads with saying the Devils players have zero value, or wouldn't make the Wild roster...etc.

It really is kind of painful.
And is a really poor representation of Minnesota fans.

Kuokkanen is a bottom 6 player? Since when?

Hischier 1-1???

Hischier > Fiala by alot

The other guy said Kuok has zero value.
Its a shame.
Wild fans are usually good people.

The analytics actually say the opposite. Hischier's better defensively, but overall impact on the game goes to Fiala by a large margin due to the gap in offense. Statistically, Fiala does much more with much less.

I was talking trade value wise.

And why is Kuokkanen a "bottom 6 player with no value"

Because he's a third line quality player at this point. 6th most ES TOI/g, 9th most PP, 9th most total on NJ. In terms of production he was the 8th best on your team per game. Maybe he develops into a second line type player next year or beyond, but he's not a top six player on a contender by any means, and he's 23, so there's not much development left.

He has value, but his value in a Fiala trade is the same as Greenway's value in a Hischier trade. It doesn't get the conversation started.

Kuokkanen started the season on the 4th line as a short-term fill in until Bratt’s contract/visa/quarantine were worked out. He worked his way onto the everyday roster, onto 3rd line, and eventually to top line with Hughes and Sharangovich.

After March 1st, he was 3rd on team in ES TOI/g.

Kuokkanen didn't have that much playing time for the first half of the season. As NHLfan10506 said, he was 3rd in ES TOI/g after March 1st, which was when he became a regular in the lineup. Kuokkanen finished with 25 points in 50 games which would have been 7th on the Wild in points per game. Imagine if he got to play in the top 6 the whole season. He would have been top 5, maybe even top 3 on the Wild in scoring.

So your evaluation of him and saying he has no value is very poor

I blocked the other guy because he's a troll so I have no idea what he said. That said, that's not how comapring scoring numbers works. He wouldn't have been given the same opportunities here he was given in NJ.

I mean, Jordan Greenway would have been second on your team in points behind Zacha, imagine if he would have played with Kaprizov or Fiala, he would have probably scored more than anyone on your roster.

How much does that mean to you if I'm trying to propose him as the centerpiece for Hischier or Hughes?

I think we will keep Kurashev

Kuokkanen could have been a top 6 center on the Wild this season. So how does he have no value like you said?

Is that to say you think Greenway for Hischier is a fine starting point for a deal?

Point blank, I don't care about what you think his role could have been, or how you think he would have done here, he's not enough to get Fiala, and that's it. There would need to be more QUALITY, and less QUANTITY, coming back in a Fiala deal.

The other dude loved talking about how wingers are a dime a dozen and thus don't hold any value, well if that's the case, wingers like Kuokkanen (he played wing this season) are even more plentiful, and we can go get one without giving Fiala up.

I never said Greenway is a good starting point for Hischier and I never said Kuokkanen for Fiala is enough. Im just wondering why you think Kuokkanen has no value. (He played wing this season but can play both center and wing

I clarified my position on that multiple times, I'm not going to address it anymore.