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Initial Creation Date: Jul. 25, 2021
Published: Jul. 25, 2021
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Jul. 25, 2021 at 2:27 p.m.
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https://twitter.com/the_creasy/status/1419327529392001026?s=21
Jul. 25, 2021 at 2:28 p.m.
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Guhle isnt an A prospect and he specifically isnt a need. MTL doesnt have what it takes
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Jul. 25, 2021 at 2:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Poehling
https://twitter.com/the_creasy/status/1419327529392001026?s=21


More likely that C is referring to Suzuki. Which would be a no from Montréal.
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Jul. 25, 2021 at 2:29 p.m.
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Would rather give a D than Ylonen, we have little to no one on the wings... Plus the guy that posted that on twitter isn't really the type of guy I would trust but.... If it's true like you said, I'd think twice about that one...
Jul. 25, 2021 at 2:30 p.m.
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Don't see a deal happening without Suzuki
Jul. 25, 2021 at 2:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Tarlam01
Would rather give a D than Ylonen, we have little to no one on the wings... Plus the guy that posted that on twitter isn't really the type of guy I would trust but.... If it's true like you said, I'd think twice about that one...


Sucks Sabres dont need defense. But yeah i think hes just fishing for clicks
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Jul. 25, 2021 at 2:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Guhle isnt an A prospect and he specifically isnt a need. MTL doesnt have what it takes


So there isn't a lot of A prospect in the BUF Sabres organization !!! Making the WJC Canada team at 18 is on it's own a pretty remarquable thing that should put him straight up in the A prospect pool
Jul. 25, 2021 at 2:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Sucks Sabres dont need defense. But yeah i think hes just fishing for clicks


Suck having KA as GM. Litteraly just gave Reinhart, I don't think Eichel will fetch what some ppl are saying he will. Going to be a lot lower than that even though he's a fantastic player. Return will still be a lot. Expect something like the Jones return my friend
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Jul. 25, 2021 at 2:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
More likely that C is referring to Suzuki. Which would be a no from Montréal.


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Don't see a deal happening without Suzuki


Suzuki and Caufield are a no-go since the beginning of the discussion
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Jul. 25, 2021 at 2:36 p.m.
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Suzuki and Caufield are a no-go since the beginning of the discussion


Then there isn't a discussion to be had.
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Jul. 25, 2021 at 2:38 p.m.
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Then there isn't a discussion to be had.


But it’s been reported by Elliot Friedman and others that they had strong discussions … I know Sabres fans want or need Suzuki/Caufield back but that is not happening. So Adams should just stop taking calls from Marc Bergevin about Eichel but seems like he is still talking
Jul. 25, 2021 at 2:39 p.m.
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Quoting: Tarlam01
So there isn't a lot of A prospect in the BUF Sabres organization !!! Making the WJC Canada team at 18 is on it's own a pretty remarquable thing that should put him straight up in the A prospect pool


Power Dahlin
Samuelsson Jokiharju
Johnson
Bryson
No A prospects eh? Almost like i know my team better
Jul. 25, 2021 at 2:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Power Dahlin
Samuelsson Jokiharju
Johnson
Bryson
No A prospects eh? Almost like i know my team better


Only Power and Dahlin are A prospects … and Quinn
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Jul. 25, 2021 at 2:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Tarlam01
Suck having KA as GM. Litteraly just gave Reinhart, I don't think Eichel will fetch what some ppl are saying he will. Going to be a lot lower than that even though he's a fantastic player. Return will still be a lot. Expect something like the Jones return my friend


Levi is fantastic and the got a first in a deep draft so thats another top 9 forward. That Reinhart trade was great
Jul. 25, 2021 at 2:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Poehling
Only Power and Dahlin are A prospects … and Quinn


Only Power and Samuelsson (edit + Johnson) are A prospects, the rest are already starters in the NHL
Jul. 25, 2021 at 2:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Only Power and Samuelsson are A prospects, the rest are already starters in the NHL


Samuelsson isn’t an A prospect
Joker is good but not that good
Bryson Johnson come on you can’t be serious
Jul. 25, 2021 at 2:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Poehling
Samuelsson isn’t an A prospect
Joker is good but not that good
Bryson Johnson come on you can’t be serious


Samuelsson is better than Guhle, Joker is pretty good, Johnson is highly regarded, and Bryson played extremely well for Buffalo in a bad year. Dahlin is the Sabres PP QB they dont need Romanov, not at the price of Eichel. The Sabres just drafted 2 dmen, one being Power the other in the 7th round. That should be as clear as it needs to be. Eichel needs to bring back centers
Jul. 25, 2021 at 2:53 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Samuelsson is better than Guhle, Joker is pretty good, Johnson is highly regarded, and Bryson played extremely well for Buffalo in a bad year. Dahlin is the Sabres PP QB they dont need Romanov, not at the price of Eichel. The Sabres just drafted 2 dmen, one being Power the other in the 7th round. That should be as clear as it needs to be. Eichel needs to bring back centers


Guhle will be better than Samuelsson IMO
I don’t see Samuelsson having top 4 potential in him
I do agree BUF don’t need LHD tho, I’m just stating the rumors
You can be good in the NHL but that doesn’t make you an A prospect like you said about Bryson. Mete was good in is first year in MTL and ended up on waivers. But nobody ever said Mete was an A prospect
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Jul. 25, 2021 at 3:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Poehling
Guhle will be better than Samuelsson IMO
I don’t see Samuelsson having top 4 potential in him
I do agree BUF don’t need LHD tho, I’m just stating the rumors
You can be good in the NHL but that doesn’t make you an A prospect like you said about Bryson. Mete was good in is first year in MTL and ended up on waivers. But nobody ever said Mete was an A prospect


Im pretty sure Samuelsson had better stats in the NHL, on the Sabres, than Guhle had in the A. I know its way easier to give up a d prospect because they are a dime q dozen and arent the flashy forwards, but Buffalo has no use. Feigning ignorance on Sabre prospects isnt going to change that. That guy also said he plugged in the names, those names arent a part of the rumor. Bryson has to be a 3rd pair Dman, no one expects more from him but he still excelled
Jul. 25, 2021 at 3:12 p.m.
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Then there isn't a discussion to be had.


NYR no go protection list be like
Jul. 25, 2021 at 3:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Im pretty sure Samuelsson had better stats in the NHL, on the Sabres, than Guhle had in the A. I know its way easier to give up a d prospect because they are a dime q dozen and arent the flashy forwards, but Buffalo has no use. Feigning ignorance on Sabre prospects isnt going to change that. That guy also said he plugged in the names, those names arent a part of the rumor. Bryson has to be a 3rd pair Dman, no one expects more from him but he still excelled


So you clearly haven't watch Guhle play in Laval for like the 10 games he played at (btw barely 18) he was what I would call the best Dman for Laval with Leskinen up there. Stop being cocky, BUF has some nice prospect but are not even anything close to be competitive. Samuelsson, Bryson and Johnson are nothing more than "comon" prospect that each team could qualify having similar guys (Even SJ who has a terrible prospect pool). You want MTL's top prospects ? Give. It ahs to go both ways in a deal, you're not alone trying to improve a team bozo
Jul. 25, 2021 at 3:24 p.m.
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So you clearly haven't watch Guhle play in Laval for like the 10 games he played at (btw barely 18) he was what I would call the best Dman for Laval with Leskinen up there. Stop being cocky, BUF has some nice prospect but are not even anything close to be competitive. Samuelsson, Bryson and Johnson are nothing more than "comon" prospect that each team could qualify having similar guys (Even SJ who has a terrible prospect pool). You want MTL's top prospects ? Give. It ahs to go both ways in a deal, you're not alone trying to improve a team bozo


MTL fan overrating their players while dismissing other teams propects simply to win an arguement, im shocked. Samuelsson is an A prospect who will be their 2nd pair dman shortly. Youre not getting Eichel for D prospects
Jul. 25, 2021 at 6:00 p.m.
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Edited Jul. 25, 2021 at 6:07 p.m.
Quoting: Poehling
https://twitter.com/the_creasy/status/1419327529392001026?s=21
Thanks for the link.
Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
More likely that C is referring to Suzuki. Which would be a no from Montréal.
Maybe but I structured it as this based on the tweet:
Young C (Kotkaniemi)
A prospect (Romanov/Guhle)
B prospect (Poehling/Ylonen)
1st RD Pick
Salary Dump (Byron/Drouin)
It is possible that Drouin needs a change and could return to his "18-'19 level
Quoting: Tarlam01
Would rather give a D than Ylonen, we have little to no one on the wings... Plus the guy that posted that on twitter isn't really the type of guy I would trust but.... If it's true like you said, I'd think twice about that one...
Well MTL would need to give up something of value, do you not agree.
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Suck having KA as GM. Litteraly just gave Reinhart, I don't think Eichel will fetch what some ppl are saying he will. Going to be a lot lower than that even though he's a fantastic player. Return will still be a lot. Expect something like the Jones return my friend
Not just Sam, but the entire draft. Rosen was pegged to be an early second or a late first, Poltapov was predicted to late in the second AFTER the Boston 2nd round pick.
So if KA did not make the trade with PHI, he could have had the same two players.
Quoting: kedogs00
Then there isn't a discussion to be had.
Well we can always negotiate. But look at the changes I made based on the tweet. Would you do that?

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Let me add, I am happy that Drouin is currently considered a cap dump.
$5,000,000 for two goals is worse than Skinner.
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