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Created by: Islesforthecup
Team: 2021-22 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 16, 2021
Published: Aug. 16, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Kaprizov can't come to terms with Minnesota. From everything I've seen on this site, if Minny is trading Kaprizov they'd want futures to rebuild. More could be added if needed (Wilde, Holmstrom).
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$4,250,000
2$2,750,000
3$7,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$2,500,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
2$4,000,000
Trades
1.
2.
NYI
  1. Ekholm, Mattias ($1,875,000 retained)
NSH
  1. Bolduc, Samuel
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (COL)
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (NYI)
3.
NYI
  1. Kaprizov, Kirill [RFA Rights]
MIN
  1. Koivula, Otto [RFA Rights]
  2. Komarov, Leo
  3. Räty, Aatu
  4. 2022 1st round pick (NYI)
  5. 2023 1st round pick (NYI)
4.
5.
NYI
  1. 2022 4th round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Pánik, Richard
Additional Details:
Anyone
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,479,188$1,365,854$1,325,000$20,812
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the New York Islanders
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the New York Islanders
$7,000,000$7,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
UFA - 5
Logo of the New York Islanders
$4,250,000$4,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the New York Islanders
$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the New York Islanders
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 3
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the New York Islanders
$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the New York Islanders
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the New York Islanders
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW
UFA - 1
$2,500,000$2,500,000
C
UFA - 6
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the New York Islanders
$5,750,000$5,750,000
LD
UFA - 8
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$1,875,000$1,875,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$1,450,000$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$750,000$750,000
C
UFA
Logo of the New York Islanders
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$750,000$750,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$750,000$750,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000$250K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Aug. 16, 2021 at 6:57 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles10
Haha ok. So Isles don’t have the pieces to trade for Kaprizov, but the pieces equals fair value in a potential Kaprizov trade? Don’t you see that you just splitting hair and fighting for semantics which means the same thing?


Because the Isles could offer similar value to other teams, and other teams would have pieces that are a better fit in their offer.
Beyond that, other teams could also outbid the Isles if it came to a bidding war, and the Isles wouldn't have the high end pieces some of those other teams could offer.

Semantics, being "what things mean", is a pretty important part of discussing "things", wouldn't you say? What's the point of saying things that don't have meaning? So yes, I am explaining the semantics of what I said to you, because you didn't understand.
Aug. 16, 2021 at 7:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Caerii
Because the Isles could offer similar value to other teams, and other teams would have pieces that are a better fit in their offer.
Beyond that, other teams could also outbid the Isles if it came to a bidding war, and the Isles wouldn't have the high end pieces some of those other teams could offer.

Semantics, being "what things mean", is a pretty important part of discussing "things", wouldn't you say? What's the point of saying things that don't have meaning?


Pieces and value is just semantics in this case, because essentially what you’re trying to do, is separate these two things as different, though they equals the same. Either you have the pieces/value or you don’t. You cannot have the value for a trade but not the pieces.

We didn’t discuss a bidding war, because then we can throw in Buffalo, Ottawa, Klngs etc. in this fantasy and of course they would outbid Isles. That was not our discussion. It was solely bases on you stating that Isles didn’t have the pieces, and I disagreed. You told me to relax.
Aug. 16, 2021 at 9:21 p.m.
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Fellow Isles fans, this is a Wahlstrom scenario. It doesn’t matter what you’re offering Minnesota, they won’t move Kaprizov.

That said, y’all need to chill. None of us are experts, we’re all just having fun here.
Aug. 16, 2021 at 9:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Islesforthecup
What team has the assets, the cap space, and the want to go get Kaprizov? Obviously every team wants him but which team is gonna want to pay the price for him? The only teams that have those assets are revilers and they're not moving those assets. 2 1sts, Raty, and koivula is a solid offer for Kaprizov IMO. Then you have to take into account if they are trading him it's bc both sides refuse to give in so they lose leverage in trade talks because of that.


LA, OTT, DET, NYR.

All 4 of those teams have the assets and are making the transition from rebuilding to competing for a cup/playoffs spot. LA in particular has high-end center prospects to spare and desperately want a young top-six winger. I could easily see a package that could include Turcotte if Kaprizov was moved there. Likewise Yzerman would move a prospect like Raymond if Kaprizov was coming back in the trade. Pinto from Ottawa. Possibly Kaako from NYR.

It's not a bad package offer, but it definitely can be beat.
Aug. 17, 2021 at 1:56 a.m.
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Quoting: RazWild
LA, OTT, DET, NYR.

All 4 of those teams have the assets and are making the transition from rebuilding to competing for a cup/playoffs spot. LA in particular has high-end center prospects to spare and desperately want a young top-six winger. I could easily see a package that could include Turcotte if Kaprizov was moved there. Likewise Yzerman would move a prospect like Raymond if Kaprizov was coming back in the trade. Pinto from Ottawa. Possibly Kaako from NYR.

It's not a bad package offer, but it definitely can be beat.


La was the only one I was thinking of. NYR most certainly does not have the cap next year when Zibanejad and fox have to be resigned. I don't see Ottawa moving Cs for a wing when they have a lot of wings and they're short on Cs. As for Detroit I don't see a Raymond for Kaprizov switch when Raymond is gonna be under team control for at lady another 7 years and on an elc for at least another 3. There's a rain teams keep their big prospects and instead of trading them for great players.
 
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