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EDM and All fans this is the price for Parayko

Created by: xercuses
Team: 2021-22 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 31, 2021
Published: Aug. 31, 2021
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STL
  1. Bouchard, Evan
  2. Holloway, Dylan
  3. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
  4. 2023 1st round pick (EDM)
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Its a seth jones package but since Paraykos better we get more
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23$81,500,000$66,882,182$306,349$1,250,000$14,617,818
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
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$1,875,000$1,875,000
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
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$900,000$900,000
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
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UFA - 6
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$750,000$750,000
G
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$3,275,000$3,275,000
LD
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UFA - 3
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$787,500$787,500
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$725,000$725,000
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Sep. 1, 2021 at 9:05 a.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
Please do not encourage this. He's not available. That's the answer.


The only scenario I see the Blues trading Parayko is if all three of the following criteria are met:

- it's the trade deadline
- the Blues are clearly out of the playoff race
- Parayko has indicated that he wants to explore the market

All AGM's based on anything other than this is just a random fan dreaming, IMO. Including this one.
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Sep. 1, 2021 at 9:16 a.m.
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The only scenario I see the Blues trading Parayko is if all three of the following criteria are met:

- it's the trade deadline
- the Blues are clearly out of the playoff race
- Parayko has indicated that he wants to explore the market

All AGM's based on anything other than this is just a random fan dreaming, IMO. Including this one.



Army needs to handle this business now. Problem is, he's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better with trades than he is with contracts.
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Sep. 1, 2021 at 10:09 a.m.
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It actually wasnt he just said hed only sign in chi but it wasnt part of the deal


False.

All Jones informed Columbus was that he wouldn't re-sign in Columbus and would go to market. Then as part of negotiations Jones agreed to his contract with Chicago. Hence why he was acquired on July 23 and a contract was agreed upon on July 23. Those aren't the types of contracts that you trade for a guy and work out in minutes, they're negotiated before the deal and signed as part of the deal.
Sep. 1, 2021 at 10:35 a.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
Please do not encourage this. He's not available. That's the answer.


exactly
Sep. 1, 2021 at 10:36 a.m.
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1. that is debatable....I would prefer Parayko, but
2. Jones did get an extension (after he said he was going to UFA in Columbus).

Bouchard, a 1st and a 2nd is a fine package.


not enough
Sep. 1, 2021 at 10:37 a.m.
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Bouchard alone has more value today than Parayko does.


lmao no
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Sep. 1, 2021 at 10:37 a.m.
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Quoting: TrueCanuck
False.

All Jones informed Columbus was that he wouldn't re-sign in Columbus and would go to market. Then as part of negotiations Jones agreed to his contract with Chicago. Hence why he was acquired on July 23 and a contract was agreed upon on July 23. Those aren't the types of contracts that you trade for a guy and work out in minutes, they're negotiated before the deal and signed as part of the deal.


But what im saying is it wasnt part of the initial deal
Sep. 1, 2021 at 10:59 a.m.
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Quoting: xercuses
lmao no


Parako without an extension is worth less than Evan Bouchard. Deal with it.
Sep. 1, 2021 at 11:01 a.m.
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Parako without an extension is worth less than Evan Bouchard. Deal with it.


no hes not you just have to accept your wrong
Sep. 1, 2021 at 11:04 a.m.
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Parako without an extension is worth less than Evan Bouchard. Deal with it.


Hahaha what???? Good grief.
Sep. 1, 2021 at 3:09 p.m.
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But what im saying is it wasnt part of the initial deal


Yes it was.

It just wasn't allowed to be announced or official until the first day of free agency (which was July 28) as per NHL rules that don't allow an extension to be signed before the player has 1 year remaining on his deal.
Sep. 1, 2021 at 3:58 p.m.
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Rental defensemen are not worth a kings ransom. 1 Year plus an extension is worth much more.
Sep. 1, 2021 at 4:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Zmach
Rental defensemen are not worth a kings ransom. 1 Year plus an extension is worth much more.


smh
Sep. 1, 2021 at 6:32 p.m.
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I think the point of discussion changes with how much he gets as an extension. Based on the recent comps that popped up in the past year, get ready to pay MINIMUM 8M for 8 years. I guarantee you at least one team will pay him 8.5M in free agency.


Well that didn't age well..
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Sep. 1, 2021 at 8:19 p.m.
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Well that didn't age well..


Yeah seriously! Was certain he was headed for free agency to bring up his contract, especially after seeing all those high priced dman sign 8-9M+. Although I will say, I still think he would have got 8M in free agency. He chose to get this done so I commend him and the Blues for it.
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Sep. 1, 2021 at 10:21 p.m.
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Well that didn't age well..


yea i honestly expected at least 7.5 so its all good lmao
Sep. 1, 2021 at 10:21 p.m.
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Yeah seriously! Was certain he was headed for free agency to bring up his contract, especially after seeing all those high priced dman sign 8-9M+. Although I will say, I still think he would have got 8M in free agency. He chose to get this done so I commend him and the Blues for it.


i love it
Sep. 2, 2021 at 12:18 a.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
Yeah seriously! Was certain he was headed for free agency to bring up his contract, especially after seeing all those high priced dman sign 8-9M+. Although I will say, I still think he would have got 8M in free agency. He chose to get this done so I commend him and the Blues for it.


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yea i honestly expected at least 7.5 so its all good lmao


Parayko signed for probably market value - can't see him ever being worth over $7M per season. Yes he's great defensively, won't argue that. But he doesn't have the offensive numbers to warrant anything more than what he got paid. Defensive defenceman tend to slow down sooner than offensive guys because of the physical style they play, so paying him anything more is risky in the long term.

All the "comparables" that have been thrown around weren't comparables at all because all of Jones, Nurse, Werenski, etc. have offence to their play styles and produce points - at the end of the day whether people admit it or not, production gets more than prevention.
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Sep. 2, 2021 at 9:48 a.m.
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Parayko signed for probably market value - can't see him ever being worth over $7M per season. Yes he's great defensively, won't argue that. But he doesn't have the offensive numbers to warrant anything more than what he got paid. Defensive defenceman tend to slow down sooner than offensive guys because of the physical style they play, so paying him anything more is risky in the long term.

All the "comparables" that have been thrown around weren't comparables at all because all of Jones, Nurse, Werenski, etc. have offence to their play styles and produce points - at the end of the day whether people admit it or not, production gets more than prevention.


Hmm I dunno, I think stats have less to do with it. The market is barren for top quality RHD. The comps I gave were more to give indication that the price of dmen has raised recently. 9M Hamilton means the guys making 6M are now guaranteed 7M now. Regardless, look at Spurgeon, he got 7.5M two years ago and I think that is more than fair for Parayko.

Either way you look at it, if a guy like me and others feel he was worth more, chances are there were GM's ready to give him more. (Possibly more than he deserves - Not saying Parayko @ 8.5M is worth it)
 
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