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Thoughts on this please

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Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 6, 2021
Published: Sep. 6, 2021
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Random idea that popped into my head while listening to the latest 31 thought podcast.
Would this be an even trade? or would TOR / OTT have to add more? Personally, I feel TOR would have to add more, but I just wanted a template of what the core deal would look like.
TOR gets the top Dman to a superb contract in case rielly leaves/gets traded next year, and gets Brady to fill the hole that Hyman left.
TOR also signs Brady to a 1 x $2.4 mill due to cap space and such, and will give him a massive pay raise once Kessel's contract comes off the books next year. (2.4 to 4 mill will be the one year, and he'll probably make 5.5-6 with the multi-year)

Ottawa gets their superstar they are looking for and can market, along with potential Top 4/2 dman in Sandin, and a late 1st rounder, in a draft that i believe is supposed to be solid next year (not 100% sure, just remember Marek mentioning something about that).
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$2,400,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Chabot, Thomas
  2. Tkachuk, Brady [RFA Rights]
OTT
  1. Marner, Mitchell
  2. Sandin, Rasmus
  3. 2022 1st round pick (TOR)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,497,616$0$0$2,384
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Tkachuk, Brady
$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW
UFA - 7
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Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
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Nylander, William
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 3
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Ritchie, Nick
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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Kase, Ondrej
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Mikheyev, Ilya
$1,645,000$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
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Spezza, Jason
$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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Kämpf, David
$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 2
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Simmonds, Wayne
$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
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Bunting, Michael
$950,000$950,000
LW
UFA - 2
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Engvall, Pierre
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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Gabriel, Kurtis
$750,000$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Brooks, Adam
$725,000$725,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Chabot, Thomas
$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 7
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Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Mrázek, Petr
$3,800,000$3,800,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
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Dermott, Travis
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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Holl, Justin
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:33 p.m.
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Sens decline extremely quick
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Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:33 p.m.
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wayyyyyy to little for tkachuk payment
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Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:34 p.m.
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the offer and the contract... yikes
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Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:34 p.m.
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Tkachuk's gonna want close to 7-8 this year, and then even if he accepts the 2.4, he's gonna want even more (8-9 maybe)
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Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:34 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Sens decline extremely quick


What would TOR have to add for it to balance out?
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In this scenario you don't have enough cap space to pay Tkachuk(maybe every scenario TBH) He would want closer to his brother's AAV on a bridge deal
Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:35 p.m.
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Quoting: islandersfan14
wayyyyyy to little for tkachuk payment


The contract you mean?
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Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:35 p.m.
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Doesnt really work for either side, Ottawa loses two players that are the heart and soul of their team, pissing off the last shred of goodwill that the sens have, and the leafs lose out on value. Sandin is obviously not as good as Chabot, but in a couple of years if Sandin becomes the excellent top 4 d he can be than the difference between Marner and Tkachuk is too great for the difference between Chabot and Sandin to make it up. The first makes it even worst for toronto.
Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:35 p.m.
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I'm an Oilers fan and if I'm the Sens I'm blocking Dubas number if he tries this trade. And Tkachuk is not signing for pennies lol. You'll lose him to an offersheet so quickly
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Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Gmonwy
In this scenario you don't have enough cap space to pay Tkachuk(maybe every scenario TBH) He would want closer to his brother's AAV on a bridge deal


7 mill is doable for the multi year. because Rielly and Kessel retainment come off the books
Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:36 p.m.
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Quoting: hazard
The contract you mean?


Trade and contract tears of joy
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Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:37 p.m.
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Quoting: ovandatsyuk13
I'm an Oilers fan and if I'm the Sens I'm blocking Dubas number if he tries this trade. And Tkachuk is not signing for pennies lol. You'll lose him to an offersheet so quickly


Lol just like how TOR would have lost the marner offer sheet? cmon now, theyve always been looming but GMS are too scared to actually do one
Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:39 p.m.
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Quoting: hazard
Lol just like how TOR would have lost the marner offer sheet? cmon now, theyve always been looming but GMS are too scared to actually do one


Well if all you're offering this year is 2.5 million Tkachuk's agent will get the word out and some team will only throw 5 - 7 million at him, which Toronto can't afford
Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:39 p.m.
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Quoting: HtotheBtotheM
Doesnt really work for either side, Ottawa loses two players that are the heart and soul of their team, pissing off the last shred of goodwill that the sens have, and the leafs lose out on value. Sandin is obviously not as good as Chabot, but in a couple of years if Sandin becomes the excellent top 4 d he can be than the difference between Marner and Tkachuk is too great for the difference between Chabot and Sandin to make it up. The first makes it even worst for toronto.


Im also taking into consideration that Melnyk owns the team and dont know if hell dish out the money for Brady. Don't forget, most of marners contract has already been paid for in actual dollars. its just the Cap hit thats high.
Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:39 p.m.
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Quoting: ovandatsyuk13
Well if all you're offering this year is 2.5 million Tkachuk's agent will get the word out and some team will only throw 5 - 7 million at him, which Toronto can't afford


Next year, Tor can afford that. Rielly and Kessel come off the books
Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:39 p.m.
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Quoting: hazard
The contract you mean?


yeah
Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:41 p.m.
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Quoting: hazard
Next year, Tor can afford that. Rielly and Kessel come off the books


Yes but if Tkachuk and his agent want to play hardball you're so screwed. Even on a 1 or two year bridge he's getting 5
Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:42 p.m.
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That Tkachuk contract....
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Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:43 p.m.
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Quoting: islandersfan14
yeah


The one year contract would be around 2.5 - 4 mill. I think its acceptable for the points he had and the fact that hell be getting alot of points playing with Matthews so hes money will increase.
The multi year I thought that hed be making close to/ more then Hyman money. 8 x 6.5 for example. Higher term, lower AAV
Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
That Tkachuk contract....


Its a 1 year... hell be getting a multi year next year when rielly and Kessel come off the books. 8 x 6,5 or 7.5. something like hyman but more cause hes younger, 8th year, and so on
Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:45 p.m.
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Quoting: ovandatsyuk13
Yes but if Tkachuk and his agent want to play hardball you're so screwed. Even on a 1 or two year bridge he's getting 5


I think TOR could fit 4.5 under the cap, if they bury some contracts, so its not completely far off. Plus it gives him every chance to make him more on the next contract playing with Matthews no?
Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:54 p.m.
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Yea no. Let's not give a local rival and in the same divison a top 5 winger, a top D prospect and a 1st for a *Decent* winger and a Top dman. The 1at for one would have to be on Ottawa side coming to the leafs ATLEAST


Edit: didn't even see the contract lol.
Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:57 p.m.
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Yea no. Let's not give a local rival and in the same divison a top 5 winger, a top D prospect and a 1st for a *Decent* winger and a Top dman. The 1at for one would have to be on Ottawa side coming to the leafs ATLEAST


No sir lol, Im a leafs fan and I can tell you, Leafs would have to give more. Brady is a rare power forward that everyone in the league is dying to have, and Chabots contract alone is perfect for the leafs. Marner is a superstar and a top 5-10 player in this league yes, but also a winger who plays with a superstar centre.
Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Zuki9797
Tkachuk's gonna want close to 7-8 this year, and then even if he accepts the 2.4, he's gonna want even more (8-9 maybe)


I cant see a scenario where Brady makes more than his brother Matthew. 7 would be the cieling
Sep. 6, 2021 at 4:59 p.m.
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Quoting: hazard
No sir lol, Im a leafs fan and I can tell you, Leafs would have to give more. Brady is a rare power forward that everyone in the league is dying to have, and Chabots contract alone is perfect for the leafs. Marner is a superstar and a top 5-10 player in this league yes, but also a winger who plays with a superstar centre.


I hate the "oh he plays with a superstar centre" yea most top wingers do because their top line. Our defense isn't the problem As much as I like Chabot. Marner > Tkachuk simple. I take the skill over Tkachuk who offensively isn't better than Nylander.
 
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