It would be insane, and on-brand for Vegas to keep the player carousel spinning... I just feel like Vegas gives up too much in this trade.

Honestly no idea which side is getting the better deal and which isn't. When you have too many star players in a deal the values are really tough to judge. Maybe remove Krebs from the Vegas side and replace with a 2nd or something like that would be better.

I mean TOR is losiing a center and gaining another top6 RW i think you have to swicth Matthews for marner and remove krebs but maybe thats just me

My angle is that the move from Stone to Matthews is marginal, as Stone is similar in quality and pretty much takes on a center's defensive responsibilities once the puck drops. If it was one-for-one (probably with a decent pick or prospect on the Stone side), I could see it happening. The value falls off when considering the Rielly for Theodore + Krebs portion, in which the Leafs get more value by far. It's a nice trade idea though, only that I'd nix the second portion.

Move Tavares to 1C and transition Nylander back to center, problem solved.

Yeah, except Matthews is six years younger, not currently signed to be paid 9.5M until he's 35, scores goals at twice the rate of Stone and centers are worth more than wingers. The difference is NOT marginal.

Contract: Matthews is going to be paid millions more than that when he hits free agency in a few years, no doubt for max term. The Stone contract is a steal, definitely worth the price tag and he's only been getting better, low chance he doesn't provide a net positive value on the rest of this deal. Matthews is signed to the richest RFA contract since McDavid, a big cap hit to swallow. In my opinion, the contract situation is better with Stone. Plus, with both teams built to contend right now, I don't think they care about what's going on 4+ years down the road.

Goal Scoring: Yes, Matthews is establishing himself as the best goal scorer of his generation. Stone is doing the same in regards to his two-way play, being in the upper-echelon of scoring leaders while contributing truly elite defense as a forward. I'd still say Matthews is the better player, but that's why there would need to be a pick or prospect attached with Stone to make it fair value. When it comes to the top 20 or so players in the league, though, the difference becomes marginal (discounting the difference between McDavid and the second-best player in the league).

Position: As I said, Stone takes the responsibilities of a center once the puck drops, as long as he's centered by a capable faceoff guy it's all good. I know positions are important, but not over most other factors.

Switch Matthews with Marner and you might have yourself a deal

I was going to pick this all apart point by point, but it's just too damn much. Instead, I'll just go with the ol' you're fooling yourself, bro, and remind you that ranking players is not the same as trade values.

not enough for matthews alone, stone is a great player and all but id rather have matthewes any day of the week then those three guys