No way that Winnipeg says yes to the deal

lol the islanders don’t consider that either - they aren’t trading a #1 D on a great contract.

Canes pass

I know this is for fun... but holy hell do you overvalue your players

Jets easily decline

Some are way over, some are way under

I love Barzal but if I'm Ottawa no way I give up Brannstrom, a 1st and 2 2nds ON TOP of Norris and Pinto

Not even sure I'd do Norris + Pinto

The only one that is undervalued in the trades is Pulock.

And mayfield and lee and palmieri. But yes most are over.

Mayfield is pretty even to me. Lee has a **** contract. Palmeri is fair but Gourde is super good. Maybe remove 2 seconds and add a third instead and seems reasonable to me.

Lmao lee does not have a **** contract. Dude was on pace for 36 goals last year under barry trotz.
Mayfield has an awesome value contract. Hes a solid top 4 d getting 1.5 for 2 more years, thats gonna cost more than a 3rd. Gourde is one of the most overrated players on here. Forget about palmieri or anything, what do you think his value is in just picks?
Also the pelech deal is an underpay, and the JGP and martin deals are even.

Lee's contract might be ok for the next year or two but it'd gonna go downhill from there. We've seen this before with so many players lol especially with his play style. A 27 game sample is so small to look at too.
Mayfield is a mediocre top 4 dman. If anything, he's a solid #5.
Gourde is and has been very good analytically and was the best player on Tampa's third line.
Palmieri is probably worth a late first (#24 or lower) or a 2nd + 3rd. If his stats this past season are any indication, it's not trending the right direction.
Pelech deal is the most even imo.
JGP is overrated. His production has not been anything spectacular with NYI and his defence is a bit above average.
Martin is trash dude is just there because Lou likes him. You will probably need to add assets onto him in order to trade him.

Lmao what are you smoking.

Lees contracr isnt great but its not ****. As for a small sample size lets look at his numbers.
16-17 - 34 goals
17-18 - 40 goals
18-19 - 28 goals
19-20 - on pace for 24 goals with a s% way under his normal s%.
20-21 - on pace for 36 goals.
Hes a consistent 30 goal scorer. Thats just the reality of it.

Mayfield is a solid #4 who is on a bargain contract. It will cost at least a 2nd to acquire him.

I am not denying gourde is good. A 2nd + a 3rd doesnt get a late 1st. Youre asking for a 1st plus 3 2nds for gourde. Thats a massive overpay. As for palmieri, he had the worst s% of his career last year and usually shoots around 180% of what he shot last year. You saw it with lee this year and youll se it with palmieri next year that when guys shoot way under their normal s% they regress to the mean. If his s% wouldve been the average that it usually is he wouldve scored on pace for 29 goals last year over a full season.

Pelech is a number 1 dman signed to a great deal. Perfetti is a very good prospect but at best we have similar talent to what we have just not at that great contract. At worst perfetti doesnt work out considering hes still a prospect and hasnt proved anything in the nhl.

JGP. Defense "a bit above average" 😂😂😂. He shuts down the top players in the league. He got traded for a 1st and a 2nd and has only gotten better. Saying he hasnt produced is just ignorant or delusional. For his time in nyi hes been on pace for 21+ goals a season. Combined with elite defensive play and great at faceoffs. And dont forget those 21+goals are under barry trotz. He plays 5v5 pp and pk and has only gotten better since coming to nyi. You either dont care about the stats or just dont know them but either way youre completely wrong.

Martin. Its a negligible deal. I disagree with your assesment but its a deal that doesnt really impact anything. Also id rather trust that lou knows what hes doing than you.

Conclusion: youre way off base and obviously dont know sh*t about the islanders. Id keep my comments and arguments to things i actually know about if i were you.

First of all, I look at advanced analytics to analyze players. Actual statistics. I use @jfreshhockey's player cards.

All I'm saying about Lee is that don't be surprised if his starts begin to fall due to his age and repeated history of other players.
Mayfield is statistically a good defensive defenceman. He provides almost nothing offensively which brings him to a real good 3rd pair dman. You aren't winning with him in your top 4, clearly.
If you look at Pageau's player card, he's only in the 62th percentile in even strength defence and in the 32th percentile on the PK. That is not elite as you may think. Production wise, he was on pace for 42 points and 21 goals this season but what happened in the playoffs? Forgot how to? How much of his "elite defensive play" attribute to Trotz system though? <-- Same goes with Mayfield.
Seems like the Martin deal does impact something to you if you start personally comparing me to Lou Seems like the trade has been helping you win cups right?

Don't be upset because of the way I base players or have different opinions than you. I'm sorry I don't watch the boring islanders. Have a great day tho!

I love how you tell me that we obviously arent winning with mayfield as a top 4 when we just made back to back ECFs. I wonder what the canucks can say to that. Probably not much.

You can call the islanders boring all you want, but thats the worst you can say bc theyre actually good, unlike the canucks. Have fun with jim benning.

Lee has provided a top line impact at even strength over past 3 seasons and He’s projected to provide excess value on his contract for the next 2 seasons. Lee’s game is not predicated on strengths that decline quickly, so he’s not a player who will fall off a cliff. Far from a sh*t contract.

Pageau’s isolated impact shows he’s above average at both ends of the ice and an elite finisher. He’s pretty much an average 2nd liner during the regular season and he turns into a high end 2nd line center during the playoffs. In the bubble he had a 58 xGF%, was the isles best defensive forward, and scored 8 goals in 22 games. Almost all of them clutch goals. In last years playoffs he was over 50% xGF% in the first two rounds, with 13 points in 12 games. Definitely overrated lol - if he didn’t break his wrist in game 1 against the lightning he could have been the difference in the series.

I look at Jfresh player cards , RAPM, and isolated impact! Actual statistics! Therefore I am right