No. IMHO any pick in this years draft is gold as it's already known to be one of the deepest drafts in a very long time. Holland has his work cut out for him this off season with who we need to re sign and there is a strong possibility we lose Puljujarvi or Yamamoto and having a good young 1st or 2nd round pick to go into the system would help a lot.

How do the Oilers "shore up their goaltending " by trading Koskinen for a worse guy?

Fair enough - I can see that for sure. 1st round picks are indeed a prized commodity. Nonetheless I think the value is there and it does address the Oilers needs, but I can understand why you wouldn’t want to give up the first.

I think my counter would be to take Allen, Koskinen out and the 1st out, and just have chiarot for the 2nd. That might be more palatable. I know some have been saying chiarot might get a 1st….while if course I would like that, I think he gets a 2nd plus maybe a later round pick as opposed to the 1st. A 1st is a lot for one playoff run of chiarot (and I really like him and what he brought to the team in the playoffs last year). He can definitely be useful to have for a deep playoff run. Very hard to play against, but again , I think he’s more of a 2nd + something small as opposed to a 1st.

Isn’t Koskinen pretty bad? I don’t see him as a starter of a Stanley cup contender. I think Allen is an upgrade while also opening 2M in cap space. Allen isn’t a starter on a Stanley cup contender either but I think he has higher upside when he’s on and I see him as more consistent as well. I’d feel better with Allen than Koskinen personally

Chariot is already being rumored to get a first from a team. MTL likely retains 50% to get that first but they likely do get it.

Koskinen isn't their starter though, that's Mike Smith. He's on LTIR right now, and Koskinen is 9-2-0 as the temporary starter while Stuart Skinner is .944 in 4 games as the backup.

Edmonton has no immediate need to trade for a goalie. All of Smith, Koskinen and Skinner are performing better than Allen this year, despite Edmonton giving up the 2nd most shots/60 as a team.

Honestly he's not. This season he has a 9-2 record so far with a 2.96GAA and a .910 Save %. He's a career .907 save %. This season he has honestly got us at least 4-5 of our wins singlehandedly so far.

It's amazing to me just how many people go by reputation rather than results. You think Allen is worth Koskinen + a 1st as stated above, yet look at the past 2+ seasons results:

Koskinen: 75gp, 40-28-3, .910 sv% while facing 32.6 shots/60
Allen: 43gp, 15-20-6, .906 sv% while facing 28.9 shots/60

Koskinen >> Allen

This is what I was referring to in comment #8 above. You, sir, are terrible at assessing value.

So you actually feel good about going into the heart of the season + maybe playoffs with Koskinen ? Interesting….

Last year, Koskinen had sub .900 save percentage. This year, his last 4 games are sub .900 as well. He has no track record outside of a 30 game sample 2 years ago and 5 games to start this season. Other than that, he’s been below average and you’re paying him 4.5M. Jake Allen is a better goalie for 2M less. Koskinen has no value around the league and I wouldn’t feel good about him as my number 1 going into the playoffs. Just my 2 cents. You can disagree that’s ok.

If it weren’t for Connor and Leon, your team would be awful. Bad defense for the playoffs and questionable goaltending. Best of luck to you, but I think chiarot and Allen would bring a lot to a team that hasn’t won anything

You really have trouble with comprehension, don't you? I'll post their 2+ seasons records again for you here:

Koskinen: 75gp, 40-28-3, .910 sv% while facing 32.6 shots/60
Allen: 43gp, 15-20-6, .906 sv% while facing 28.9 shots/60

Theres no logical way to argue that the difference between Koskinen and Allen is a 1st round pick in Montreal's favor. None.

And what you keep missing is that Koskinen is not Edmonton's #1 goalie, there's a pretty decent chance that he won't be required to play a single playoff game next spring. And why would any sane person trade a 1st for a guy who would just sit on the bench all playoffs anyway? Your proposal is completely illogical.

Chiarot is in the proposal too. I think you’re the one with reading comprehension issues.

That's something that has to be considered as well.
This team may be at its peak, and may not be able to keep it together for long. If you believe the time is now, do you really keep a pick or two over increasing the chance to win the cup? Do you go into that opportunity with a goaltending trio that has limited recent playoff success/experience and features a 40 year old starter?
Those are valid questions management needs to ask.

Did you just completely forget that you wrote this:

I think my counter would be to take Allen, Koskinen out and the 1st out, and just have chiarot for the 2nd. That might be more palatable.

... and that's what I was responding too?