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Mar. 23, 2017 at 10:48 p.m.
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OK. Here's a game that people can play if they want where people can pretend to be the GM of a team, and we can make trades and stuff as if it's the offseason (no vegas expansion trades until we get closer to the expansion draft, though you may talk about those trades). You may ask for a team, and i will give you that team if it isn't already taken. My favourite teams are the Rangers and Islanders tied, so i'll be the Islanders. Each person may only be the GM of one team.
Here is the list of GMs (i will update it when someone claims a team):
Anaheim Ducks - TrueNorth https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/345664
Arizona Coyotes - Rodzikhockey93 https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/318832
Boston Bruins - Math https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/351495
Buffalo Sabres - mhockey91 https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/338089
Calgary Flames - Calgary13 https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/295446
Carolina Hurricanes - Zach https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/295062
Chicago Blackhawks - Thornton_MVP https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/294720
Colorado Avalanche - ricochetii https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/294273
Columbus Blue Jackets - matt59 https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/387542
Dallas Stars - DirtyDangles https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/422877 still waiting to hear from TheGiftedYoungRider and DirtyRebound
Detroit Red Wings - plNHL https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/294500
Edmonton Oilers - NateElder12 https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/79495 taisei is the assistant
Florida Panthers - F50marco https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/57578
Los Angeles Kings - mikeyscav https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/294508
Minnesota Wild - Icegirl https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/80305
Montreal Canadiens - DarylthePony https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/411967 Done95 and jeg5393 are the assistants
Nashville Predators - jmac490 https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/306385
New Jersey Devils - Bennett93 https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/54785
New York Islanders - rangersandislesfan https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/294270
New York Rangers - TonyStrecher https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/387422 l9guysports is the assistant
Ottawa Senators - JT_Miller https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/299278
Philadelphia Flyers - WerenskiWarrior https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/347858
Pittsburgh Penguins - DavidBooth7 https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/316967 Pasta88Sauce is the assistant
San Jose Sharks - TopCornerShot https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/81413
St. Louis Blues - Turner33 https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/294262
Tampa Bay Lightning - boltscharge17 https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/60625
Toronto Maple Leafs - WhisperWhisper https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/80923
Vancouver Canucks - Bo53Horvat https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/81653
Washington Capitals - Jacketsman61 https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/60124
Winnipeg Jets - Duster https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/54754

Vegas Golden Knights - phillyjabroni https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/301572

Vegas is also available. No posting trades unless both GMs agree. Thanks!
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Apr. 11, 2017 at 7:06 p.m.
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Since we are ignoring NMC's for trades are we also doing that for the Expansion Draft or since they are technically waived when traded, would we only ignore traded players NMC's for expansion? Because that could change a lot of teams' protection plans.
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Since we are ignoring NMC's for trades are we also doing that for the Expansion Draft or since they are technically waived when traded, would we only ignore traded players NMC's for expansion? Because that could change a lot of teams' protection plans.


The rule in place is to ignore for trades, but they have to be protected in expansion, unless you think they would be willing to waive IRL, which is honestly kind of vague and open to interpretation, unless we waited for the real protection lists or some kind of news was released by a player or his team. Everything else is speculative.
If I were to ask Vegas if there was an age or cap limitation to what players they would select (of their own free choice, not a side deal), I'd expect a number somewhere in the 32+ and $5M range, and I'd suggest players that are above that line would waive their NMC's for the purpose of this game. Not a perfect method, as I could see Vegas selecting Bobby Ryan if he were made available (as an example), and he might not be okay with that IRL, though I'm sure his team would.

Another possibility that comes to mind is to have anonymous voting among the GMs as to who would reasonably agree to waive their NMC.

One more possible method, and perhaps the simplest, is that only players who remain on their original teams may be expected to waive their NMC's for expansion purposes. Players who are recently traded have usually already waived their NTC's. We could "pretend/assume" that a player with both an NTC and NMC, would only be willing to waive one or the other. If he agrees to a trade, it is probably because he doesn't want to agree to risk exposure to Vegas. This is probably the easiest to implement and track for our purposes.
1. Player has NMC: He can be assumed to waive it for expansion purposes, but not to be sent to the minors
2. Player has NTC: He can be assumed to waive it, but not for the purpose of being bought out or sent to the minors by another team
3. Player has both NMC and NTC: He will waive one or the other, but only for his original team. So you can either expose him to expansion or trade him, but once he is on another team, he will no longer waive either.
Now this rule would have worked better if we had it in place from the beginning, as it's possible such players have already been moved multiple times, so we could set it to 1 additional time so those with such a player (full disclosure, I have one myself, although I plan to keep him) aren't currently left without options and ignore the previous movements.

Just some ideas that might help.
Apr. 11, 2017 at 8:13 p.m.
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In case people missed it ...

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I'll be out. I don't have enough time for it. Thank you


MrK has tendered his resignation in the unstickied thread. Who's next in line for a team rangers?
Apr. 11, 2017 at 8:40 p.m.
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Since we are ignoring NMC's for trades are we also doing that for the Expansion Draft or since they are technically waived when traded, would we only ignore traded players NMC's for expansion? Because that could change a lot of teams' protection plans.


I think we are going to all agree on if it's fair for us to waive a(n) NTC for the expansion draft. For trades, we're ignoring them, but for the expansion draft, if it's someone like Callahan, then sure, they can waive it, but if it's Bieksa, we probably won't let them.
Apr. 11, 2017 at 8:42 p.m.
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Since we are ignoring NMC's for trades are we also doing that for the Expansion Draft or since they are technically waived when traded, would we only ignore traded players NMC's for expansion? Because that could change a lot of teams' protection plans.


The rule in place is to ignore for trades, but they have to be protected in expansion, unless you think they would be willing to waive IRL, which is honestly kind of vague and open to interpretation, unless we waited for the real protection lists or some kind of news was released by a player or his team. Everything else is speculative.
If I were to ask Vegas if there was an age or cap limitation to what players they would select (of their own free choice, not a side deal), I'd expect a number somewhere in the 32+ and $5M range, and I'd suggest players that are above that line would waive their NMC's for the purpose of this game. Not a perfect method, as I could see Vegas selecting Bobby Ryan if he were made available (as an example), and he might not be okay with that IRL, though I'm sure his team would.

Another possibility that comes to mind is to have anonymous voting among the GMs as to who would reasonably agree to waive their NMC.

One more possible method, and perhaps the simplest, is that only players who remain on their original teams may be expected to waive their NMC's for expansion purposes. Players who are recently traded have usually already waived their NTC's. We could "pretend/assume" that a player with both an NTC and NMC, would only be willing to waive one or the other. If he agrees to a trade, it is probably because he doesn't want to agree to risk exposure to Vegas. This is probably the easiest to implement and track for our purposes.
1. Player has NMC: He can be assumed to waive it for expansion purposes, but not to be sent to the minors
2. Player has NTC: He can be assumed to waive it, but not for the purpose of being bought out or sent to the minors by another team
3. Player has both NMC and NTC: He will waive one or the other, but only for his original team. So you can either expose him to expansion or trade him, but once he is on another team, he will no longer waive either.
Now this rule would have worked better if we had it in place from the beginning, as it's possible such players have already been moved multiple times, so we could set it to 1 additional time so those with such a player (full disclosure, I have one myself, although I plan to keep him) aren't currently left without options and ignore the previous movements.

Just some ideas that might help.


It will be kind of like the RFA signings where we let a few people say what they think for if they think the player would waive his NTC.
Apr. 11, 2017 at 8:45 p.m.
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In case people missed it ...

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I'll be out. I don't have enough time for it. Thank you


MrK has tendered his resignation in the unstickied thread. Who's next in line for a team rangers?


How about the current Boston assistant? Only if (s)he wants to though.
Apr. 11, 2017 at 8:46 p.m.
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JT Miller wanted Dallas
Apr. 11, 2017 at 8:48 p.m.
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In case people missed it ...



MrK has tendered his resignation in the unstickied thread. Who's next in line for a team rangers?


How about the current Boston assistant? Only if (s)he wants to though.


I don't know if anyone was ahead of them, but otherwise it sounds fine.

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Miller already took Ottawa.
Apr. 11, 2017 at 8:56 p.m.
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How about the current Boston assistant? Only if (s)he wants to though.


I don't know if anyone was ahead of them, but otherwise it sounds fine.

I don't think anyone was, but i want to wait until the BOS assistant accepts the job.
Apr. 11, 2017 at 9:04 p.m.
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Just as an FYI, I have been made a pretty good pitch for Seth Jones and am seriously considering moving him. If you want him, give me your best offer and I'll listen. If no better offers are made by noon tomorrow, he will be traded.
Apr. 11, 2017 at 9:12 p.m.
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Just as an FYI, I have been made a pretty good pitch for Seth Jones and am seriously considering moving him. If you want him, give me your best offer and I'll listen.


Not sure if you'll like any of my offers and i don't even want defence until after the expansion draft.
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Just as an FYI, I have been made a pretty good pitch for Seth Jones and am seriously considering moving him. If you want him, give me your best offer and I'll listen.


Not sure if you'll like any of my offers and i don't even want defence until after the expansion draft.


In this case I don't think a deal will work. If no better offers than what I have on the table are made for Jones he's getting moved at noon tomorrow, well before expansion draft.
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Not sure if you'll like any of my offers and i don't even want defence until after the expansion draft.


In this case I don't think a deal will work. If no better offers than what I have on the table are made for Jones he's getting moved at noon tomorrow, well before expansion draft.


Wait, why do you have expansion problems? You only have 2 guys that are must-protects.
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In this case I don't think a deal will work. If no better offers than what I have on the table are made for Jones he's getting moved at noon tomorrow, well before expansion draft.


Wait, why do you have expansion problems? You only have 2 guys that are must-protects.


ok, never mind. i didn't notice you had acquired a few more D-Men.
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In this case I don't think a deal will work. If no better offers than what I have on the table are made for Jones he's getting moved at noon tomorrow, well before expansion draft.


Wait, why do you have expansion problems? You only have 2 guys that are must-protects.


I don't have expansion problems, was just saying how a deal is going to be made tomorrow. Deal being made tomorrow has more to do with maintaining the integrity of the deal than any Exp. draft issues. Point is, Jones will be moved long before you would be ready to make a move for him after the draft.
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Wait, why do you have expansion problems? You only have 2 guys that are must-protects.


I don't have expansion problems, was just saying how a deal is going to be made tomorrow. Deal being made tomorrow has more to do with maintaining the integrity of the deal than any Exp. draft issues. Point is, Jones will be moved long before you would be ready to make a move for him after the draft.


ok
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Since we are ignoring NMC's for trades are we also doing that for the Expansion Draft or since they are technically waived when traded, would we only ignore traded players NMC's for expansion? Because that could change a lot of teams' protection plans.


The rule in place is to ignore for trades, but they have to be protected in expansion, unless you think they would be willing to waive IRL, which is honestly kind of vague and open to interpretation, unless we waited for the real protection lists or some kind of news was released by a player or his team. Everything else is speculative.
If I were to ask Vegas if there was an age or cap limitation to what players they would select (of their own free choice, not a side deal), I'd expect a number somewhere in the 32+ and $5M range, and I'd suggest players that are above that line would waive their NMC's for the purpose of this game. Not a perfect method, as I could see Vegas selecting Bobby Ryan if he were made available (as an example), and he might not be okay with that IRL, though I'm sure his team would.

Another possibility that comes to mind is to have anonymous voting among the GMs as to who would reasonably agree to waive their NMC.

One more possible method, and perhaps the simplest, is that only players who remain on their original teams may be expected to waive their NMC's for expansion purposes. Players who are recently traded have usually already waived their NTC's. We could "pretend/assume" that a player with both an NTC and NMC, would only be willing to waive one or the other. If he agrees to a trade, it is probably because he doesn't want to agree to risk exposure to Vegas. This is probably the easiest to implement and track for our purposes.
1. Player has NMC: He can be assumed to waive it for expansion purposes, but not to be sent to the minors
2. Player has NTC: He can be assumed to waive it, but not for the purpose of being bought out or sent to the minors by another team
3. Player has both NMC and NTC: He will waive one or the other, but only for his original team. So you can either expose him to expansion or trade him, but once he is on another team, he will no longer waive either.
Now this rule would have worked better if we had it in place from the beginning, as it's possible such players have already been moved multiple times, so we could set it to 1 additional time so those with such a player (full disclosure, I have one myself, although I plan to keep him) aren't currently left without options and ignore the previous movements.

Just some ideas that might help.


I was just wondering because if I wanted to leave Phaneuf exposed would I be able to do that? I know both him and Bobby Ryan have NMC's and NTC's however in the expansion tool I think Ryan isn't forced to be protected.
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The rule in place is to ignore for trades, but they have to be protected in expansion, unless you think they would be willing to waive IRL, which is honestly kind of vague and open to interpretation, unless we waited for the real protection lists or some kind of news was released by a player or his team. Everything else is speculative.
If I were to ask Vegas if there was an age or cap limitation to what players they would select (of their own free choice, not a side deal), I'd expect a number somewhere in the 32+ and $5M range, and I'd suggest players that are above that line would waive their NMC's for the purpose of this game. Not a perfect method, as I could see Vegas selecting Bobby Ryan if he were made available (as an example), and he might not be okay with that IRL, though I'm sure his team would.

Another possibility that comes to mind is to have anonymous voting among the GMs as to who would reasonably agree to waive their NMC.

One more possible method, and perhaps the simplest, is that only players who remain on their original teams may be expected to waive their NMC's for expansion purposes. Players who are recently traded have usually already waived their NTC's. We could "pretend/assume" that a player with both an NTC and NMC, would only be willing to waive one or the other. If he agrees to a trade, it is probably because he doesn't want to agree to risk exposure to Vegas. This is probably the easiest to implement and track for our purposes.
1. Player has NMC: He can be assumed to waive it for expansion purposes, but not to be sent to the minors
2. Player has NTC: He can be assumed to waive it, but not for the purpose of being bought out or sent to the minors by another team
3. Player has both NMC and NTC: He will waive one or the other, but only for his original team. So you can either expose him to expansion or trade him, but once he is on another team, he will no longer waive either.
Now this rule would have worked better if we had it in place from the beginning, as it's possible such players have already been moved multiple times, so we could set it to 1 additional time so those with such a player (full disclosure, I have one myself, although I plan to keep him) aren't currently left without options and ignore the previous movements.

Just some ideas that might help.


I was just wondering because if I wanted to leave Phaneuf exposed would I be able to do that? I know both him and Bobby Ryan have NMC's and NTC's however in the expansion tool I think Ryan isn't forced to be protected.


Let me post an idea of who i, myself think will waive their NTCs and who i don't think will. Others can make their own things like that. It might take a while for me to post, so please wait.
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I was just wondering because if I wanted to leave Phaneuf exposed would I be able to do that? I know both him and Bobby Ryan have NMC's and NTC's however in the expansion tool I think Ryan isn't forced to be protected.


Let me post an idea of who i, myself think will waive their NTCs and who i don't think will. Others can make their own things like that. It might take a while for me to post, so please wait.


I think we should just make sure the option we pick is the most realistic. Like if we all know a guy isn't waiving then you don't get to waive him or else the guy who picked Vegas will get a total dog crap team. Who's got insider connections? Anyone know Bob Mckenzie's real phone number? lol
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Let me post an idea of who i, myself think will waive their NTCs and who i don't think will. Others can make their own things like that. It might take a while for me to post, so please wait.


I think we should just make sure the option we pick is the most realistic. Like if we all know a guy isn't waiving then you don't get to waive him or else the guy who picked Vegas will get a total dog crap team. Who's got insider connections? Anyone know Bob Mckenzie's real phone number? lol


I have his phone number.
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My idea for NTC waiving in expansion draft;

Yes means i think they will waive their NTC, No means i don't think they will:

Anaheim Ducks
Corey Perry - Yes
Ryan Getzlaf - No
Ryan Kesler - No
Kevin Bieksa - No

Arizona Coyotes
Alex Goligoski - Yes

Boston Bruins
David Krejci - Yes
Patrice Bergeron - No
David Backes - No
Zdeno Chara - Yes

Buffalo Sabres
Kyle Okposo - No

Calgary Flames
None

Carolina Hurricanes
Jordan Staal - No

Chicago Blackhawks
Patrick Kane - Yes
Jonathan Toews - Yes
Marian Hossa - No
Artem Anisimov - No
Brent Seabrook - No
Duncan Keith - No
Niklas Hjalmarsson - Yes
Corey Crawford - Yes

Colorado Avalanche
Erik Johnson - Yes
Francois Beauchemin - Yes

Columbus Blue Jackets
Brandon Dubinsky - No
Nick Foligno - No
Scott Hartnell - No
Sergei Bobrovsky - Yes

Dallas Stars
Jason Spezza - Yes
Jamie Benn - Yes

Detroit Red Wings
Frans Nielsen - Yes

Edmonton Oilers
Milan Lucic - No
Andrej Sekera - Yes
Cam Talbot - No

Florida Panthers
Keith Yandle - Yes

Los Angeles Kings
Anze Kopitar - No

Minnesota Wild
Zach Parise - No
Mikko Koivu - No
Jason Pominville - No
Ryan Suter - Yes

Montreal Canadiens
Jeff Petry - Yes
Carey Price - Yes

Nashville Predators
Pekka Rinne - No

New Jersey Devils
None

New York Islanders
John Tavares - Yes
Andrew Ladd - Yes
Johnny Boychuk - Yes

New York Rangers
Rick Nash - Yes
Marc Staal - Yes
Dan Girardi - Yes
Henrik Lundqvist - Yes

Ottawa Senators
Dion Phaneuf - Yes

Philadelphia Flyers
Claude Giroux - Yes
Valtteri Filppula - No

Pittsburgh Penguins
Evgeni Malkin - No
Sidney Crosby - Yes
Phil Kessel - No
Kris Letang - No
Marc-Andre Fleury - Yes

San Jose Sharks
None

St. Louis Blues
None

Tampa Bay Lightning
Steven Stamkos - No
Ryan Callahan - Yes
Victor Hedman - No

Toronto Maple Leafs
None

Vancouver Canucks
Henrik Sedin - No
Daniel Sedin - No
Loui Eriksson - No

Washington Capitals
None

Winnipeg Jets
Dustin Byfuglien - No
Tobias Enstrom - Yes

Notes: (1 The Kyle Okposo one is questionable. If we do not find out whether he will need to retire or not by the expansion draft, we might just say protect him. (2 Sorry if i made any typos or anything. (3 I do not need anyone to agree with me on the Sedins. That has been decided - they will not waive their NTCs in this game.

Please let me know what you think!
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Let me post an idea of who i, myself think will waive their NTCs and who i don't think will. Others can make their own things like that. It might take a while for me to post, so please wait.


I think we should just make sure the option we pick is the most realistic. Like if we all know a guy isn't waiving then you don't get to waive him or else the guy who picked Vegas will get a total dog crap team. Who's got insider connections? Anyone know Bob Mckenzie's real phone number? lol


I'm going to wait and see what everyone else thinks of my idea for who will and won't waive their NTCs. As we all know, i want to think about what everyone wants.
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What's your reasoning for thinking Bobrovsky would waive his NMC? Ditto for Crosby?
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I think we should just make sure the option we pick is the most realistic. Like if we all know a guy isn't waiving then you don't get to waive him or else the guy who picked Vegas will get a total dog crap team. Who's got insider connections? Anyone know Bob Mckenzie's real phone number? lol


I'm going to wait and see what everyone else thinks of my idea for who will and won't waive their NTCs. As we all know, i want to think about what everyone wants.


First of all; NTC's don't matter in the expansion draft.

Second of all; Perry, Chara, THE F***IN BLACKHAWKS, ok I don't even want to continue. Are you dumb? You have Crosby (supposedly) waiving.
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As long as rangersfan isn't making the decisions then we're good. This guy is like the troll version of Bettman.
 
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