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Just Innocent Thoughts

Created by: SupremeOverlord14
Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 14, 2021
Published: Dec. 17, 2021
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As the Oilers sit on a five-game losing streak and my mind begins to wander, I figured I’d have some fun to see what could be. This is my vision in a few months.
My views:
—I am incredibly high on our young talent. I believe the Oilers are in their teen years. They show tons of potential, but they still have pimples and mood swings. So my plan with the Oilers roster would be to let it mostly play out. I think if we let our young guys develop for two years we would have a better shot at creating a dynasty later than if we went all in too-soon (that’s not to say we will be a dynasty).
—Of course if we see an elite goaltender on the market, we grab him. But I don’t see one, and it’s unlikely we’ll find one outside of free agency. Picking up Khudobin off of the waiver wire would’ve been interesting, but with 1 year and $3.33M left on his contract many GMs figure it would be best to wait until the off-season. I think Skinner has a real good shot at being the solution (or perhaps, part of the solution) in a few years time, and as added bonus, he can easily become a fan-favorite since he is an Edmontonian. Until then, Smith (when healthy) has been very good. Koskinen is okay. He’s too inconsistent. Most of the time he’s on his toes and plays very well (not great though), but he has a weak mental state which makes him occasionally lax and uncompetitive, especially when Smith is injured.
—With the expected emergence of Bouchard, Barrie is almost certainly on the move. According to rumors, even Holland has considered it.
—Jake DeBrusk has also been tied to many fantasy trade scenarios. Many of us believe he is a brilliant fit in Edmonton. He’s an Edmontonian his self, and is the son of Edmonton’s color commentator (who was also a former Oiler), and more importantly, he’s what we need. I have seen some suggest that McLeod would be the most realistic person to give to Boston (among a pick), but I am eager to see McLeod and Benson flourish in our future, and McLeod has played very good this year as a two-way center, but is often held back as his wingers aren’t as offensively talented. So I’ll try to keep McLeod.
—The biggest concern on my mind is Tippett. He’s clearly never heard of the phrase “if ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” Our recent struggles are clearly not due to a lack of talent or to a slump. I believe it is constant gameplay shifting from Tippett (which has especially effected the power play) and a lack of fiery and passionate leadership from Tippett. It’s sad, I actually grew to love Tippett earlier.
—Many people expect Keith to be one of the first things an Oiler fan dreams for us to get rid of. But I will not. No I’m not blind. Keith is clearly out of touch. But you see, there is a special quasi-loophole (the exact details and how it works I do not recall) that would give the Oilers additional cap-space for the next season if Keith decides to retire at the end of this season. Therefore we shouldn’t give him reason to retire too early (such as benching him), and we shouldn’t trade him.
—A lot of fans, including myself, have been rather disappointed by the seemingly unimaginative handling of this past offseason. But I believe I see what the plan is. I believe Holland is not intent on making us immediate contenders, but a future dynasty. Most of his moves suggest laying a bridge from now until a few years later, and many of his moves have been for long-term scenarios (mainly Hyman and Foegele). Sure it would have been nice to keep Bear, especially instead of Barrie, but we have an abundance of young, talented, d-men, and most of our young forwards are too far from being NHLers yet. I believe in Holland’s plan (admittedly, much of this is blind hope), not so much Tippet’s.
—Back to goaltending, it’s interesting to see what will become of Skinner when Smith returns. It’s probable Skinner will return to the AHL, but I argue he should stay. He’s shown steadiness when confident, and sending him back to the AHL won’t provide any growth to Skinner (who lead the AHL in wins last year). Keeping him as a third option to start the odd game will improve him and quite possible allow Smith and Koskinen time to rest, as they are often peppered with 30+ shots per game thanks to Tippet’s genius plan of letting the other team shoot first.
—I like Kassian, but with his big contract I don’t see him being in Edmonton much longer, especially when Niemeläinen registered 5.7 hits per game and McDavid himself has become more physical these last few years so “protection” isn’t needed. I'd be sad to see Kassian go, but that $3.2M liberation is all too salivating.
—I don't know why Arizona would trade Chychrun, but rumours suggest they have explored that option, and there isn't a better fit than the Oilers. Holland is very protective of his first round picks, but if the Oilers hope to nab Chychrun without gutting their roster they have to get rid of two now plus a highly-touted prospect. Kassian would also be shipped as Oilers would need cap room and Arizona has no issue with taking on hefty contracts this year.
—PP1 note: Draisaitl is a better face-off taker than McDavid, so he often takes face-offs, and then despite being a left-wing second, Draisaitl will often spend time on the right side where he gets most of his PP goals.
Trades
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EDM
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. 2022 7th round pick (BOS)
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ARI
  1. Broberg, Philip
  2. Kassian, Zack
  3. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
  4. 2023 1st round pick (EDM)
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$80,764,468$669,339$990,000$735,532

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 5
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$1,175,000$1,175,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
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$1,175,000$1,175,000
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$3,675,000$3,675,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$834,167$834,167 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
C
RFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,600,000$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$817,500$817,500 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,538,462$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$785,000$785,000
G
UFA - 1

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Dec. 17, 2021 at 12:38 a.m.
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Ya 0 chance the habs give you dvorak for barrie.
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Dec. 17, 2021 at 12:40 a.m.
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Ya 0 chance the habs give you dvorak for barrie.


In the notes I explained that Montreal was interested in a puck-moving d-man and had become recently disgruntled with Dvorak. Of course these are rumors and nothing solid. I probably shouldn've handed Montreal a mid-pick too.
Dec. 17, 2021 at 12:44 a.m.
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Dvorak is in his first year with the Habs and the whole team blew up and pooped the bed. Plus Ducharme's coaching style is highly confusing and over half the team is either on IR or LTIR. Dvorak will be part of the team moving forward, especially if all that would be offered is Barrie.
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Dec. 17, 2021 at 1:45 a.m.
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Dvorak is in his first year with the Habs and the whole team blew up and pooped the bed. Plus Ducharme's coaching style is highly confusing and over half the team is either on IR or LTIR. Dvorak will be part of the team moving forward, especially if all that would be offered is Barrie.


I never said I think Barrie is worth Dvorak, but I think there is a possibility that Montreal might think so. Unpopular trades are all too common in the league, and as Montreal seeks a GM they seem to be in a position where they may be on the bad end of things.
Dec. 17, 2021 at 8:18 a.m.
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I never said I think Barrie is worth Dvorak, but I think there is a possibility that Montreal might think so. Unpopular trades are all too common in the league, and as Montreal seeks a GM they seem to be in a position where they may be on the bad end of things.


Gorton is the one running the show until the new GM is hired, he is not a moron and would not make this type of move. Dvorak has disappointed in production (although many of us thought it was a stretch anyway to expect the kind of jump in production MB was selling) but has been as advertised in the f/o circle and defensively. The thing that really stands out is what seems to be a complete lack of interest or emotion or pride that comes from playing for the most storied franchises in NHL history. He won't be moved for pennies on the dollar like you are suggesting though, Gorton will wait for the new GM to come in and they will discuss their value of Dvorak and a trade will be made based on that value IF they are indeed looking to move him.
Dec. 17, 2021 at 8:45 a.m.
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It blows my mind that you valued Barrie, Dvorak and DeBrusk basically the same - and then received pushback on the idea! Here is each player's production over the past 4.3 seasons:

Barrie: 300, 44-176-220 0.73 P/GP (5th among defensemen)
DeBrusk: 269, 72-70-142 0.53 P/GP (151st among forwards)
Dvorak: 251, 57-68-125 0.50 P/GP (176th among forwards)

Only one of these guys is a defenseman. It would be a MASSIVE loss in value to trade Barrie for either of these other guys. Anyone who says otherwise just isn't looking at the facts. Barrie's contract is a STEAL for what he brings. He's an elite offensive defenseman on a fantastic contract, that doesn't equate to a middle-6 winger under any circumstances.
Dec. 17, 2021 at 11:02 a.m.
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It blows my mind that you valued Barrie, Dvorak and DeBrusk basically the same - and then received pushback on the idea! Here is each player's production over the past 4.3 seasons:

Barrie: 300, 44-176-220 0.73 P/GP (5th among defensemen)
DeBrusk: 269, 72-70-142 0.53 P/GP (151st among forwards)
Dvorak: 251, 57-68-125 0.50 P/GP (176th among forwards)

Only one of these guys is a defenseman. It would be a MASSIVE loss in value to trade Barrie for either of these other guys. Anyone who says otherwise just isn't looking at the facts. Barrie's contract is a STEAL for what he brings. He's an elite offensive defenseman on a fantastic contract, that doesn't equate to a middle-6 winger under any circumstances.


Its REALLY generous to call what barrie plays "defense".
 
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