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Blues 2022-23 Chychrun -Tarasenko

Created by: suburbanrobot
Team: 2022-23 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 11, 2022
Published: Jan. 11, 2022
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A stab at what the roster looks like for 2022 if the team trades for Chychrun and deals Tarasenko in the offseason. I've chosen the Isles here for two roster guys; just feels like more of the type of deal DA would make while the window is open rather than trading for high value picks and prospects.

I've used the savings from Tarasenko to resign some current roster guys that are hitting UFA (Perron, Husso, Bozak at league min if he wants to play another season), and left a little headroom to take care of depth RFAs I didn't mess with like Logan Brown and Jake Walman. I really like the way this defense shapes up but there is a lot of salary invested there and the forward situation is pretty murky.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$850,000
2$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$750,000
3$2,500,000
2$2,000,000
2$1,000,000
Trades
1.
STL
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
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TDL deal 2021-22 season
ARI
  1. Bolduc, Zachary
  2. Perunovich, Scott [RFA Rights]
  3. Scandella, Marco
  4. 2022 1st round pick (STL)
2.
STL
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony
  2. Mayfield, Scott
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (COL)
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Trade in offseason before 2022 draft
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$74,675,000$1,100,000$0$6,825,000
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
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UFA - 4
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$2,800,000$2,800,000
C, RW
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RW
UFA - 1
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,875,000$1,875,000
C
UFA - 1
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
LW, RW, C
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UFA - 3
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RW, LW
UFA - 2
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LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
LW, RW
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UFA - 6
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$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA
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Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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RD
NTC
UFA - 5
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 5
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 8
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Jan. 11, 2022 at 11:42 a.m.
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Somehow you got a better return for Tarasenko in his 30s than what you gave up for a top pair Dman that's 23.
Jan. 11, 2022 at 11:42 a.m.
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Think the ARI deal is just fine, but the NYI deal needs work. It would only make sense for Isles to invest in a pending UFA winger like Senko next year if they go all in, which makes moving assets like Beauvillier impossible.
Jan. 11, 2022 at 11:44 a.m.
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Isles decline
Jan. 11, 2022 at 11:45 a.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
Think the ARI deal is just fine, but the NYI deal needs work. It would only make sense for Isles to invest in a pending UFA winger like Senko next year if they go all in, which makes moving assets like Beauvillier impossible.


The thought is that Tarasenko is a massive upgrade over Beauvillier so still a move to improve the roster. Not sure how married the Isles are to him after disappointing results. He only has one additional year over Tarasenko.
Jan. 11, 2022 at 11:47 a.m.
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Somehow you got a better return for Tarasenko in his 30s than what you gave up for a top pair Dman that's 23.


I really don't agree on this at all -- Perunovich + Bolduc + 1st rounder is a LOT more than Beauvillier and Mayfield.
Jan. 11, 2022 at 11:48 a.m.
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The thought is that Tarasenko is a massive upgrade over Beauvillier so still a move to improve the roster. Not sure how married the Isles are to him after disappointing results. He only has one additional year over Tarasenko.


Offensively he probably is, but Beauvillier is more of a two way speedster anyway, which is a type of player NYI severely lacks. They're stacked with veteran wingers already.

NYI needs another Beauvillier - like player and a top 4 D and they're right up there again.
Jan. 11, 2022 at 11:51 a.m.
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The thought is that Tarasenko is a massive upgrade over Beauvillier so still a move to improve the roster. Not sure how married the Isles are to him after disappointing results. He only has one additional year over Tarasenko.


Beauvillier is in a slump, he’s been the isles best two way forward over the last 3 years and their best playoff performer. They wouldn’t trade Beau for Tarasenko 1 for 1. They don’t need any more 30 year olds.
Jan. 11, 2022 at 11:51 a.m.
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25 teams in the league beat that AZ trade offer
Jan. 11, 2022 at 11:54 a.m.
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Offensively he probably is, but Beauvillier is more of a two way speedster anyway, which is a type of player NYI severely lacks. They're stacked with veteran wingers already.

NYI needs another Beauvillier - like player and a top 4 D and they're right up there again.


Fair enough, I went Isles here because they were linked heavily to Tarasenko before the season and there was obvious interest there, and Tarasenko has been nothing but great this season while Beau has underperformed. Tarasenko return is likely two roster guys at this point. I think this is a better fit than you may think, especially for a team like the Isles that desperately needs someone that can score goals.
Jan. 11, 2022 at 11:55 a.m.
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25 teams in the league beat that AZ trade offer


Possible. It's more directional assuming the Blues do indeed get him. If there is an extra draft pick or player it wouldn't substantially change the build here.
Jan. 11, 2022 at 12:01 p.m.
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Isles definitely decline. No way
Jan. 11, 2022 at 12:10 p.m.
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I'm a little surprised at the Beauvillier defensiveness from the NYI crowd. He's a 0.5-0.6 PPG player with a ~20 goal ceiling on a team that basically cannot score. He's a fine player but far from a world beater. The idea that NYI would not even trade him 1:1 for Tarasenko is quite honestly nuts if the team is actually trying to win. Otherwise they should be flipping him and others for draft capital and/or prospects. He's got 2 more years of team control before UFA...
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Jan. 11, 2022 at 12:11 p.m.
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Quoting: suburbanrobot
I really don't agree on this at all -- Perunovich + Bolduc + 1st rounder is a LOT more than Beauvillier and Mayfield.


It wouldn't be close to the best offer AZ receives. LA could pony up 2-3 of Turcotte, Clarke, Grans, Vilardi, Thomas, or Madden. STL is in the conversation sure, but they aren't going to be the frontrunner.
Jan. 11, 2022 at 12:11 p.m.
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Possible. It's more directional assuming the Blues do indeed get him. If there is an extra draft pick or player it wouldn't substantially change the build here.


Add a high level prospect and keep Scandella he decreases the value of this for AZ
Jan. 11, 2022 at 12:13 p.m.
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It wouldn't be close to the best offer AZ receives. LA could pony up 2-3 of Turcotte, Clarke, Grans, Vilardi, Thomas, or Madden. STL is in the conversation sure, but they aren't going to be the frontrunner.


I agree, this was a hypothetical look in the case it does happen. No doubt LA can make a better offer if they choose to do so, but given the Blues seem to be very much in the conversation figured I'd take a rip at what the team would look like next year assuming it happens.
Jan. 11, 2022 at 12:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
Add a high level prospect and keep Scandella he decreases the value of this for AZ


We can’t keep Scandella if we go for Chycrun and AZ knows that that’s why we give up a lot for him as well
Scotty P is a high level prospect
Jan. 11, 2022 at 12:49 p.m.
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Another Isles option would be Josh Bailey + Mayfield but the draft capital is going to go up and the deal is more complicated given he makes another million.
Jan. 11, 2022 at 12:50 p.m.
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I'm a little surprised at the Beauvillier defensiveness from the NYI crowd. He's a 0.5-0.6 PPG player with a ~20 goal ceiling on a team that basically cannot score. He's a fine player but far from a world beater. The idea that NYI would not even trade him 1:1 for Tarasenko is quite honestly nuts if the team is actually trying to win. Otherwise they should be flipping him and others for draft capital and/or prospects. He's got 2 more years of team control before UFA...


A 20 goal ceiling lol - he was on pace for 26 goals last season and is in the 76th percentile for goals per 60 min over the last 3 seasons. Analytically he's been one of the isles best forwards and a big reason why they've made it to the ECF 2 years in a row. He's a core player, he's not being traded. Seems like you're overrating Tarasenko and underrating Beauvillier because you'd like this trade to happen.

If the isles are trying to win, they should probably stop giving their best offensive winger (Wahlstrom) 4th line minutes. Trading Beauvillier for Tarasenko won't make much of a difference and the isles get older and slower.

Jan. 11, 2022 at 1:20 p.m.
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We can’t keep Scandella if we go for Chycrun and AZ knows that that’s why we give up a lot for him as well
Scotty P is a high level prospect


You seem and I could be wrong saying Chychrun has to be traded I don't think just because they're seeing the market means he has to go and shouldn't go unless they get a king's ransom and this isn't that
Jan. 11, 2022 at 1:38 p.m.
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You seem and I could be wrong saying Chychrun has to be traded I don't think just because they're seeing the market means he has to go and shouldn't go unless they get a king's ransom and this isn't that


I agree, with the caveat that there is probably no bigger Perunovich truther out there than Bill Armstrong, and Perunovich would stay under team control with Arizona for several more years than Chychrun. If you believe that Perunovich is an all-star capable blue liner, you take the deal knowing that Chychrun has a lot more value to a team trying to win now than he does to Arizona who won't compete for a few years yet.

A deal involving Perunovich and Chychrun is just such a natural fit it's hard to miss. Chychrun is a great player that can help a team win now but that's not what Arizona needs/wants. Perunovich has legit all-star upside and fits best with a team that is looking to win 2-3 years from now. Bill Armstrong was literally the guy that got STL to draft Perunovich, and Perunovich is not well suited to the Blues roster construction which already has two offensive dman and needs a better defensive player on Parayko's left side.

I could be wrong, but I'd put down real cash on the idea that IF a Chychrun deal gets done, it gets done with St. Louis with Perunovich going the other way.
Jan. 11, 2022 at 2:01 p.m.
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You seem and I could be wrong saying Chychrun has to be traded I don't think just because they're seeing the market means he has to go and shouldn't go unless they get a king's ransom and this isn't that


I completely agree fs tbh I have no idea why he’s even being shopped
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Jan. 11, 2022 at 2:03 p.m.
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I agree, with the caveat that there is probably no bigger Perunovich truther out there than Bill Armstrong, and Perunovich would stay under team control with Arizona for several more years than Chychrun. If you believe that Perunovich is an all-star capable blue liner, you take the deal knowing that Chychrun has a lot more value to a team trying to win now than he does to Arizona who won't compete for a few years yet.

A deal involving Perunovich and Chychrun is just such a natural fit it's hard to miss. Chychrun is a great player that can help a team win now but that's not what Arizona needs/wants. Perunovich has legit all-star upside and fits best with a team that is looking to win 2-3 years from now. Bill Armstrong was literally the guy that got STL to draft Perunovich, and Perunovich is not well suited to the Blues roster construction which already has two offensive dman and needs a better defensive player on Parayko's left side.

I could be wrong, but I'd put down real cash on the idea that IF a Chychrun deal gets done, it gets done with St. Louis with Perunovich going the other way.

And 25 Other teams still outbid that offer. Scandella has negative value to AZ and downgrades the package. This doesn't come close to the Eichel calibre return they're looking for, but I do appreciate your homer veiw on it.
Jan. 11, 2022 at 2:50 p.m.
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And 25 Other teams still outbid that offer. Scandella has negative value to AZ and downgrades the package. This doesn't come close to the Eichel calibre return they're looking for, but I do appreciate your homer veiw on it.


I mean, this is essentially the exact offer that the (few) Arizona fans are putting out there so not sure how it is a homer take.

I still think it is more likely that a Chychrun deal doesn't get done at all, but if it is going to happen this is plausible.
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Jan. 11, 2022 at 2:56 p.m.
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I mean, this is essentially the exact offer that the (few) Arizona fans are putting out there so not sure how it is a homer take.

I still think it is more likely that a Chychrun deal doesn't get done at all, but if it is going to happen this is plausible.


I agree it doesn't nor do I think it's a good idea for them and I think it's going to take more for them to pull the trigger on a deal.
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Jan. 12, 2022 at 12:11 p.m.
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I'll say it now, going in on Chychrun will be a terrible decision
 
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