I just published 3 seasons combined data and your comeback is that it's a 29 game sample size?

Koskinen's reputation has been ruined by media and the poor oilers defense which is sad to see. He's a backup goalie asked to be played as a starter on probably the worst defensive team in the league, that adds up for bad results. If you put him on an average defensive team and play him 25-30 games a year, he will do his job perfectly giving the team a chance to win every night. The team doesn't have to be WPG but maybe the Preds might be an option as they give up a 5th to rest Saros before the playoffs, probably something that is worth it if they plan to go deep. Plus Koskinen's contract is only for this year so not big deal with the cap hit either.

yes cuz it was the only releveant piece of stat you posted. 5v5 per 60 min is a great stat but 28 goals n 52 games versus 2 goals in 27 game should be enough to tell you all you need to know. 5v5 scoring per 60 is one piece of the puzzle. Kassian has 6 career pph n 1shg, Toffli had 7ppg n 2shg just last season.

If you honestly think that a fair comparison of Toffoli is Zach Kassian because of one stat then there' s no point in responding.

I don't think the Bruins let go of Ullmark for less. Maybe two 2nds but that's the equivalent to a 1st. He's still a solid starter in the league and has shown why the past couple of years.

Chychrun is an overpayment but that's what the ask is for. It's not too much of one in my opinion as the acquiring Chychrun would leave no space for Broberg and the forward prospect pool for the oilers is deep, so I don't mind giving up those guys. ARZ obviously wants picks too so you have to add those in. Teams will be in a bidding war for a top pairing dman on a team friendly deal with term.

Any per 60 stat I don't like to look at as it's very misleading (missing lots of context and prefer analytics and eye test). Toffoli is worth the 1st+ which some of the reasonable habs fans are asking for. I do worry about the hand surgery he just had but I trust he's still a solid top 6 forward with good playoff experience.

I have no idea what you're trying to say here^

And I suspect you don't either. I never quoted this years stats, I only gave 3 years combined data.

" This season Toffoli's scoring has dropped way off, he's scored just 1 goal at 5v5 in 29 games so far"" that was part of your other post.

5v5 scoring is important but it doesnt nearly tell the whole story. i dont know how else to explain it Toffoli and Kassian are not comparable players by any logic. its an extremely narrow lens to judge a scorer through.

Look at the 3 year comparison. It doesn't reconcile with the notion that Kassian is a cap dump while Toffoli is worth multiple high end assets. That's all I'm saying.

In any case, there's no reason for Edmonton to go after Toffoli as they have a bunch of cheap young talent coming up and plenty of offensive talent in the team today. They have other priorities.

The package being given up is worth a 1st+. If you combine both Samorukov and Lavoie they add up to a 1st round pick plus the second added on top, it seems very fair to me for MTL team who is trying to rebuild probably. They get Samorukov who is ready to take the step into the NHL next year and Lavoie who could very well be better than Toffoli in the coming years as well.

You can't trust what these guys say to the media because nobody is gonna admit over interviews that they want out. I'm sure Toffoli would like to stay but the team isn't where he wants them to be making a good chance he wants to leave. A guy like him in his prime probably would want to go to a contender.

Chiarot is not worth a 1st but media has influenced him to be it (good for MTL bad for team that gets him). He's for sure more of a 2nd and a B level prospect in my opinion. Lehkonen is not recieving a 1st at all. I haven't heard a single report that he were to fetch that price, I've seen numerous mid round pick reports for him. Toffoli is worth a 1st and a B level prospect. The trade gives two guys who will most likely be NHL players and a 2nd. The trade makes perfect sense for a re-tooling as they get prospects who are close to NHL ready with high ceilings (potentially better than Toffoli) and a 2nd rounder.

Because you only follow EDM and no other teams or what other teams need, MTL LHD better than Samorukov : Edmundson Romanov Guhle Harris Struble and he is equal to Fairbrother. So Samorukov = NO VALUE for MTL
Now MTL RW better than Lavoie : Anderson Toffoli Caufield Gallagher Ylönen Armia. So Lavoie = NO VALUE for MTL
So your offer is realistically a 2nd RD pick for Toffoli lmao that’s more than horrible

Sir, your team is supposed to be rebuilding, prospects are what you want and having a deeper pool gives the team a lot of options down the road. A guy like Edmundson should be traded if the team continues to perform poorly and lucky for you, Samorukov plays both sides (played both sides in KHL), also he is on par with Harris, Sturble and Fairbrother are gonna be 4th and 5th dman most likely.