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How valuable is Lindstrom

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Detroit fans. Wondering what your thoughts are on Lindstrom. With Hronek seider and Lindstrom I'd think they're willing to move one of Hronek or Lindstrom.

Would they have interest in a more offensive puck moving D of similar age?
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Jan. 29, 2022 at 2:04 a.m.
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There defense isn’t great, I wouldn’t move anything of quality till you have to.
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Jan. 29, 2022 at 2:19 a.m.
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There defense isn’t great, I wouldn’t move anything of quality till you have to.


Seider is clearly a top pairing dman and Hronek is a top 4. So they'd probably be open to moving Lindstrom or Hronek depending on who they think is better. I'm wondering who the fans think is better. They could also use a PP dman. Seider is solid there but a true PP specialist would take their PP to another level.
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Jan. 29, 2022 at 2:37 a.m.
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Sure they'd move lindstrom in the right deal. He's a bottom pair guy.
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Jan. 29, 2022 at 2:51 a.m.
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Quoting: Mediumyeet
Seider is clearly a top pairing dman and Hronek is a top 4. So they'd probably be open to moving Lindstrom or Hronek depending on who they think is better. I'm wondering who the fans think is better. They could also use a PP dman. Seider is solid there but a true PP specialist would take their PP to another level.


Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
There defense isn’t great, I wouldn’t move anything of quality till you have to.


Lindstrom is a defensive defenseman and won't put up a lot of points but thats what makes him an Ideal 3rd pair defenseman.

Let's say that Trouba trade happened. Now who out of Hronek, Seider and Trouba is going to be happy being in the 3rd pair?

I doubt he gets traded but it is a possible.

@Mediumyeet This is the Trouba trade I'm referring to

Trouba trade
Jan. 29, 2022 at 2:51 a.m.
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I was just thinking this the other day as Sebrango could potentially replace Lindstrom. I've also thought alot about a Lindstrom for Barrie + trade to Edmonton, but it would need to be worth while. Lindstrom was drafted with a second round pick so I don't see any reason to move him for anything less, in all reality I would expect a greater return on investment with him. A late first for a team in need of a young cheap defensive RD is what I would want, otherwise no reason to trade him.
Jan. 29, 2022 at 2:52 a.m.
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Lindstrom is a defensive defenseman and won't put up a lot of points but thats what makes him an Ideal 3rd pair defenseman.

Let's say that Trouba trade happened. Now who out of Hronek, Seider and Trouba is going to be happy being in the 3rd pair?

I doubt he gets traded but it is a possible.

Mediumyeet This is the Trouba trade I'm referring to

Trouba trade


Still rather just buy him out in another year or so.
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Jan. 29, 2022 at 2:53 a.m.
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Lindstrom is a defensive defenseman and won't put up a lot of points but thats what makes him an Ideal 3rd pair defenseman.

Let's say that Trouba trade happened. Now who out of Hronek, Seider and Trouba is going to be happy being in the 3rd pair?

I doubt he gets traded but it is a possible.

Mediumyeet This is the Trouba trade I'm referring to

Trouba trade


Trouba trade would require Hronek to be moved. But he could possibly get us our second pairing centre. I don't see trouba as a third pair guy.
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Jan. 29, 2022 at 2:53 a.m.
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Still rather just buy him out in another year or so.


Ok but thats not why I mentioned it.
Jan. 29, 2022 at 2:54 a.m.
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Still rather just buy him out in another year or so.


Have all the buyouts off the books after 2023 so it would be possible.
Jan. 29, 2022 at 2:57 a.m.
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Have all the buyouts off the books after 2023 so it would be possible.


That’s one thing that never scares this team. Weve had a ridiculous amount of dead cap from buyouts the past few years, so I don’t see it being an issue in the future,
Jan. 29, 2022 at 3:02 a.m.
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Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
Still rather just buy him out in another year or so.


There is 0 reason to but Trouba out.

1. He's easily a top 4 d and brings a toughness that is rare to find in the league now (something Drury has prioritized and paid a premium for)
2. There would be a market for him unless there is a very steep decline
3. His buyout is 4.1mil per year for his contract years and ten another 2.1mil for any year after. That is detrimental to a team that will likely be against the cap.
Jan. 29, 2022 at 3:06 a.m.
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There is 0 reason to but Trouba out.

1. He's easily a top 4 d and brings a toughness that is rare to find in the league now (something Drury has prioritized and paid a premium for)
2. There would be a market for him unless there is a very steep decline
3. His buyout is 4.1mil per year for his contract years and ten another 2.1mil for any year after. That is detrimental to a team that will likely be against the cap.


He is not worth $8 mil. That is a fact. If I need toughness that costs less than $2-3 mil not 2.5 times that. His contract will be part of the issues with resigning Strome or upgrading the RW position. If he mad $6 mil we’d have enough to have never needed to trade Buch.
Jan. 29, 2022 at 3:07 a.m.
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I was just thinking this the other day as Sebrango could potentially replace Lindstrom. I've also thought alot about a Lindstrom for Barrie + trade to Edmonton, but it would need to be worth while. Lindstrom was drafted with a second round pick so I don't see any reason to move him for anything less, in all reality I would expect a greater return on investment with him. A late first for a team in need of a young cheap defensive RD is what I would want, otherwise no reason to trade him.


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Lindstrom is a defensive defenseman and won't put up a lot of points but thats what makes him an Ideal 3rd pair defenseman.

Let's say that Trouba trade happened. Now who out of Hronek, Seider and Trouba is going to be happy being in the 3rd pair?

I doubt he gets traded but it is a possible.

Mediumyeet This is the Trouba trade I'm referring to

Trouba trade


Ya I would be thinking for a LHD with offensive upside since that is one thing the wings don't really have. I'm a Canucks fan so specifically I'm thinking Rathbone for Lindstrom. Rathbone is finally healthy so should get a look in the NHL soon. If he shows well the rest of the season I think it could make sense for both teams.

Not sure there's enough time for Rathbone to prove himself this year though so might be something Canucks would look into more after/during next season if the value seems fair.
Jan. 29, 2022 at 3:14 a.m.
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He is not worth $8 mil. That is a fact. If I need toughness that costs less than $2-3 mil not 2.5 times that. His contract will be part of the issues with resigning Strome or upgrading the RW position. If he mad $6 mil we’d have enough to have never needed to trade Buch.


Probably not worth 8mil but it's not that far off. He's tied for 5th in goals by dmen this year, moves the puck well, plays pk, brings toughness, and is the ever elusive RHD.

Drury never had to move Buch. He chose to do that and then use most of the money on Goodrow and Nemeth it had nothing to do with troubas contract.
Jan. 29, 2022 at 6:50 a.m.
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Lindstrom is criminally underrated. Look at Detroit's defensive numbers with and without him. I think he should be playing a bigger role personally and would trade Hronek before Lindstrom.
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Jan. 29, 2022 at 9:03 a.m.
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Ya I would be thinking for a LHD with offensive upside since that is one thing the wings don't really have. I'm a Canucks fan so specifically I'm thinking Rathbone for Lindstrom. Rathbone is finally healthy so should get a look in the NHL soon. If he shows well the rest of the season I think it could make sense for both teams.

Not sure there's enough time for Rathbone to prove himself this year though so might be something Canucks would look into more after/during next season if the value seems fair.


I honestly don't think Rathbone would be who Detroit would target in a trade. Especially not straight up anyways. I'm also pretty high on Rathbone and would like to see him get a chance somewhere. We have alot of LD guys in the pipeline that will overflow our depth there within the next two years I expect. I feel either Horvat or Hoglander would be the target for Detroit. I look at the Larsson trade as an example and I know there would have to be some adjustments to a trade of that sort. I just don't see any reason to trade him for anything other than an over pay.
 
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