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Everyone knows if Miller moves it going to be to the Rangers

Created by: Snowball
Published: Feb. 8, 2022 at 2:53 a.m.
Salary Cap: $81,500,000
Season Days: 80/200 (40%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Boston BruinsBoston Bruins

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Frederic, TrentBoston BruinsIR-$420,000011---0000--
Vaakanainen, UrhoWaivers ExemptBoston BruinsNHL-$357,666111---0000--
Beecher, JohnWaivers ExemptBoston BruinsMinor-$0011---0000--
2022 1st round pick (Logo of the Boston BruinsBOS)---100------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Miller, J.T.Vancouver CanucksNHL50%$1,050,000111---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$953,9962245663612
Change-$272,3340-2-2-100
Final$681,662 (↓)2243 (↓)64 (↓)2 (↓)612000

Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVancouver Canucks

Trade occurred while using LTIR
LTIR Relief: $9,112,500
LTIR Used Prior to Trade: $6,262,500
OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Miller, J.T.Vancouver CanucksNHL50%$2,625,000111---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Frederic, TrentBoston BruinsIR-$1,050,000011---0000--
Vaakanainen, UrhoWaivers ExemptBoston BruinsNHL-$894,167111---0000--
Beecher, JohnWaivers ExemptBoston BruinsMinor-$0011---0000--
2022 1st round pick (Logo of the Boston BruinsBOS)---100------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$2,850,0002347673511
Change$680,833022100
Final$3,530,833 (↑)2349 (↑)69 (↑)4 (↑)511000
Feb. 8, 2022 at 4:00 a.m.
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With a package like that, yes you are right...
Feb. 8, 2022 at 7:24 a.m.
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Quoting: Hitagi_Senpai
With a package like that, yes you are right...


Really? No way I can’t believe that a package that’s been proposed on here 12 times in last two weeks still gets beat! Darn! Any package Boston makes gets beat, that’s the point happy, even lysell, lohrei and first is only package that comes close to what rangers can offer, then couple that with the cap space they have this year VS what bruins have, sorry gets beat

Oh and obviously bruins are never going to offer that for a 29 year old 2C
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Feb. 8, 2022 at 9:53 a.m.
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Quoting: Snowball
Really? No way I can’t believe that a package that’s been proposed on here 12 times in last two weeks still gets beat! Darn! Any package Boston makes gets beat, that’s the point happy, even lysell, lohrei and first is only package that comes close to what rangers can offer, then couple that with the cap space they have this year VS what bruins have, sorry gets beat

Oh and obviously bruins are never going to offer that for a 29 year old 2C


Yeah - you wont win many Bruins offers, everyone seems to think that Lysell is the only player of value that the Bruins can offer to anyone. I guess they will just have to be on the look out for getting a deal like Hall and Lazar for Bjork and 2nd round pick (oh wait that would never happen in the forums, only in real life)
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Feb. 8, 2022 at 10:12 a.m.
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Yeah - you wont win many Bruins offers, everyone seems to think that Lysell is the only player of value that the Bruins can offer to anyone. I guess they will just have to be on the look out for getting a deal like Hall and Lazar for Bjork and 2nd round pick (oh wait that would never happen in the forums, only in real life)


I wish you could like things more then once on here, hahaha
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Feb. 8, 2022 at 10:15 a.m.
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Yeah - you wont win many Bruins offers, everyone seems to think that Lysell is the only player of value that the Bruins can offer to anyone. I guess they will just have to be on the look out for getting a deal like Hall and Lazar for Bjork and 2nd round pick (oh wait that would never happen in the forums, only in real life)


Honestly, I don't think BOS can put together a package that can match some other teams. I don't like references to the hall trade, because BUF didn't have a choice in where to move him. It's where he wanted to go, and they had to at least recoup something for that massive mistake.
Feb. 8, 2022 at 10:50 a.m.
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Honestly, I don't think BOS can put together a package that can match some other teams. I don't like references to the hall trade, because BUF didn't have a choice in where to move him. It's where he wanted to go, and they had to at least recoup something for that massive mistake.


Yeah that is fair, but its not just the Hall trade, it happens a lot in the NHL where expectations are so high on a speculative return etc. and we get shocked at what players go for. You are correct, if multiple teams are in on Miller AND the Canucks want to move him, its likely someone else can make a better offer (I say this because right now, no offer should include Lysell or Lohrei at the moment - unless the return is to good to pass up)
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Feb. 8, 2022 at 11:00 a.m.
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Yeah that is fair, but its not just the Hall trade, it happens a lot in the NHL where expectations are so high on a speculative return etc. and we get shocked at what players go for. You are correct, if multiple teams are in on Miller AND the Canucks want to move him, its likely someone else can make a better offer (I say this because right now, no offer should include Lysell or Lohrei at the moment - unless the return is to good to pass up)


People just need to stop listening to the media, don’t get me wrong some analyst take their best guess mixed with logical reasoning and come pretty close a lot of the times but it depends on supply and demand so much on yearly bases that no one can really say for sure. Not yet anyways. No one besides the GM’s really knows all the conversations happening and which players are actually available, maybe even some of them don’t know this year as we’re still 40+ days out from the TDL.

As far as lohrei and lysell, I agree, unless there’s a younger top player in the conversation these two shouldn’t be, personally I throw harrisson in this category but that’s personal opinion. ( and ya we get VAN fans JT is in his prime just look at his numbers, yup heard it already, still doesn’t warrant bruins top D or F prospects) same reason you won’t get Schneider from NYR, or Lundell from FLA ect. ect.
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Feb. 8, 2022 at 2:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Snowball
People just need to stop listening to the media, don’t get me wrong some analyst take their best guess mixed with logical reasoning and come pretty close a lot of the times but it depends on supply and demand so much on yearly bases that no one can really say for sure. Not yet anyways. No one besides the GM’s really knows all the conversations happening and which players are actually available, maybe even some of them don’t know this year as we’re still 40+ days out from the TDL.

As far as lohrei and lysell, I agree, unless there’s a younger top player in the conversation these two shouldn’t be, personally I throw harrisson in this category but that’s personal opinion. ( and ya we get VAN fans JT is in his prime just look at his numbers, yup heard it already, still doesn’t warrant bruins top D or F prospects) same reason you won’t get Schneider from NYR, or Lundell from FLA ect. ect.


Yeah. I agree. Lots of rumours and sources to say the least coming out with a "his moving" or "the asking price starts with...." - we all know that with each passing day this a dynamic and not a static situation that will change. I mean the Sabres were asking for literally Christ himself to join the team as a trade chip for Eichel......and look what they got. If you take a look at the old Eichel forms people were saying Crosby, McDavid and others could be moved etc for him and nothing less than that would work. Teams may set high of lofty trade demands to set a high bar, if they get it, then they jump for joy and laugh at the other team. That being said they also do it deliberately to give some negotiation room as well. Fingers crossed we get an eventful trade deadline this year.

Going back to the JT Miller or even Garland for that matter, I can see the Bruins tapping out on those two if the cost stays as high as people are claiming and don't be surprised if they move 2dn to 5th round picks this year or next with assets like Urho, DeBrusk, Studs etc. to land players like Leddy, Pavelski, or Jarnkrok (even Jack Roslovic would add some interesting dynamic if available). If the Bruins were smart they would hold onto Lysell, Lohrei and Swayman unless the offer as I said before is so good they cannot turn it down.
Feb. 8, 2022 at 6:49 p.m.
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The Canucks don't need to trade their best forward, Miller, this year. I believe he will be just as valuable maybe even more so at next years trade deadline when they could retain half his salary to a cap strapped contender. So unless some team makes an offer they can't refuse then they should just keep him. h
 
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