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was holl benched

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Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 14, 2022
Published: Feb. 14, 2022
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noticed at the end of the game muzzin was out with lilly same with sandin, didnt see holl for the last 5 minutes anyone else notice it?
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Feb. 14, 2022 at 11:49 p.m.
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They just swapped the pairs. Sandin-Holl was on the ice
I like Muzz-Timoth tho, hope it stays
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Feb. 14, 2022 at 11:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Random2152
They just swapped the pairs.
I like Muzz-Timoth tho, hope it stays


looked good at the end, holl had a rough game again i noticed, ice didnt help anyone tonight on either side though
Feb. 14, 2022 at 11:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Random2152
They just swapped the pairs. Sandin-Holl was on the ice
I like Muzz-Timoth tho, hope it stays


Correct:
Sandin Holl 2:31
Muzzin Liljegren 2:29

And absolutely keep those together. Holl Muzzin pair should be over
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Feb. 14, 2022 at 11:52 p.m.
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They were split up as a result of Seattle's 2nd goal it looks like.
Feb. 14, 2022 at 11:52 p.m.
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Quoting: odyssey
looked good at the end, holl had a rough game again i noticed, ice didnt help anyone tonight on either side though


Yeah holl had a rough one. He is a fine player but myzzin isn't able to do some of the things that made his life easier anymore so he needs a bit of a reduction in comp and time.

Anyway if it ends up being:
Mo-TJ
Muzz-Timmoth
Sandin-Holl
Mitz

I'm fine with it going into playoffs. Would be nice for a small upgrade for 1.5 years tho until Lily is able to take it full time
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Feb. 14, 2022 at 11:54 p.m.
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Feb. 14, 2022 at 11:54 p.m.
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Feb. 14, 2022 at 11:55 p.m.
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Anyone notice how bad Seattle's ice was

Everyone was falling over left and right

Like god even Arizona had better ice conditions lul

Probs Holl was to focused on not falling again. Cant blame him as nobody seemed to be able to stay on their feet.
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Feb. 14, 2022 at 11:56 p.m.
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Yeah holl had a rough one. He is a fine player but myzzin isn't able to do some of the things that made his life easier anymore so he needs a bit of a reduction in comp and time.

Anyway if it ends up being:
Mo-TJ
Muzz-Timmoth
Sandin-Holl
Mitz

I'm fine with it going into playoffs. Would be nice for a small upgrade for 1.5 years tho until Lily is able to take it full time


That why I want a Leafs to trade for a dman with 2 yrs term. Perfect timing as by then Niemela will be ready for the NHL. Hopefully by then our d pairs will be:

Rielly-Brodie
Sandin-Liljegren
Muzzin-Niemela
Rubins
Feb. 14, 2022 at 11:59 p.m.
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That why I want a Leafs to trade for a dman with 2 yrs term. Perfect timing as by then Niemela will be ready for the NHL. Hopefully by then our d pairs will be:

Rielly-Brodie
Sandin-Liljegren
Muzzin-Niemela
Rubins


i think the leafs move on from muzzin this off season, if worst comes to worst
Feb. 14, 2022 at 11:59 p.m.
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Quoting: MauriceArthur15
That why I want a Leafs to trade for a dman with 2 yrs term. Perfect timing as by then Niemela will be ready for the NHL. Hopefully by then our d pairs will be:

Rielly-Brodie
Sandin-Liljegren
Muzzin-Niemela
Rubins


I'd be careful projecting niemela just yet. Progression is not linear, just ask timmoth.
But I'd rather they left it and upgraded at F this year as a first priority, and upgraded on hollsy as a 2ndary task of space is available.
Feb. 14, 2022 at 11:59 p.m.
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Anyone notice how bad Seattle's ice was

Everyone was falling over left and right

Like god even Arizona had better ice conditions lul

Probs Holl was to focused on not falling again. Cant blame him as nobody seemed to be able to stay on their feet.


I’ve seen better ice at the outdoor classic games
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Feb. 15, 2022 at 12:00 a.m.
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i think the leafs move on from muzzin this off season, if worst comes to worst


No. Both because of NTC and the fact he is still good. People are far too quick to call him washed. Sandin will slowly take his mins until his contract runs out and that'll be it
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Feb. 15, 2022 at 12:02 a.m.
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May I interest you in ben chiarot?
Feb. 15, 2022 at 12:06 a.m.
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Dubas gets a B+ as a GM.
The big 3 blunders were:
1. Keeping Holl over McCann
2. Kadri trade
3. Marchment for Malgin
Feb. 15, 2022 at 12:06 a.m.
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May I interest you in ben chiarot?


Nope.

Lauzon > Chiarot
Younger, cheaper, better
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Feb. 15, 2022 at 12:06 a.m.
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Quoting: odyssey
i think the leafs move on from muzzin this off season, if worst comes to worst


They won’t move Muzzin. Muzzin will flourish in less minutes while Sandin will flourish in more. They Leafs have a legit pipeline on the blue line and Rubins is a lot like Muzzin. He will be good as well. Big hitting dman with great defensive upside
Feb. 15, 2022 at 12:08 a.m.
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Dubas gets a B+ as a GM.
The big 3 blunders were:
1. Keeping Holl over McCann
2. Kadri trade
3. Marchment for Malgin


Marchement would’ve never made this Leafs team. He was given multiple opportunities as well. He just flourished cause Florida lack of depth in 2021 and they bought low on a lot and hit home runs with multiple. Kinda like the Leafs with off season with Kase, Bunting and Kampf
Feb. 15, 2022 at 12:09 a.m.
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Dubas gets a B+ as a GM.
The big 3 blunders were:
1. Keeping Holl over McCann
2. Kadri trade
3. Marchment for Malgin




For me:
1. Tavares (rushed the rebuild)
2. All the FA that have walked
3. Foligno trade
Feb. 15, 2022 at 12:24 a.m.
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May I interest you in ben chiarot?


depends, if there is no D with term come the day the leafs make a trade. yes
Feb. 15, 2022 at 12:39 a.m.
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Liljegren and Muzzin looked decent, sandin is sick no matter who he plays with and holl is completely useless no matter who he plays with. I think the top priority for the leafs is finding Sandin a RHD to play with in the top 4.
 
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