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Created by: leafs101

Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 16, 2022

Published: Feb. 16, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

TOR

Additional Details:

Whitecloud is owed 2.75M after this season for the next 6 years. While I think that's a good contract, Vegas has to find a way to shed cap and with Theodore-Petro-McNabb-Martinez under contract for awhile, he's expendable. Whether they wait to bring Stone off of LTIR until the playoffs or not, they'll have to shed Dadonov's 5M as well, and that might be tricky. So, they package the two together and trade them to Toronto.

VGK

2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
2023 4th round pick (TOR)

Additional Details:

Leafs are tasked with flipping Dadonov, but get a great, big young defender to be a part of their D core for the next 6 years. Because they take on Dadonov, they get him for pennies on the dollar.

TOR

2022 4th round pick (WPG)

NYR

Dadonov, Evgeni ($1,300,000 retained)

Additional Details:

This is the amount that we pay to have Ritchie in the minors. There might be takers at 5M, but assuming there aren't because this is a steep price, they would do this.

TOR

not to ANA but to whoever will take him

ANA

Ritchie, Nick
2024 3rd round pick (TOR)

TOR

Schenn, Luke ($300,000 retained)

VAN

2022 4th round pick (WPG)
2023 6th round pick (TOR)

Additional Details:

6th goes to 3rd party team for retaining

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
Evgeni Dadonov: $1,300,000 (52%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$81,494,783	$0	$0	$5,217

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bunting, Michael $950,000$950,000 LW UFA - 2	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C UFA - 3	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW UFA - 4
Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 4	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 3
Mikheyev, Ilya $1,645,000$1,645,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Kämpf, David $1,500,000$1,500,000 C UFA - 2	Kase, Ondrej $1,250,000$1,250,000 RW UFA - 1
Engvall, Pierre $1,250,000$1,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Spezza, Jason $750,000$750,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Simmonds, Wayne $900,000$900,000 RW, LW NTC UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD NMC UFA - 1	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 3	Campbell, Jack $1,650,000$1,650,000 G UFA - 1
Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD NTC UFA - 3	Whitecloud, Zach $725,000$725,000 RD UFA - 1	Mrázek, Petr $3,800,000$3,800,000 G M-NTC UFA - 3
Sandin, Rasmus $894,167$894,167 LD UFA - 1	Holl, Justin $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Dermott, Travis $1,500,000$1,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 2
Schenn, Luke $550,000$550,000 RD UFA - 2

Taxi Squad
Liljegren, Timothy $863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0) ($400,000$400K) RD RFA - 1
Brooks, Adam $725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0) C UFA - 1
Clifford, Kyle $1,000,000$1,000,000 ($0$0$0$0) LW UFA - 1
Källgren, Erik $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0) G UFA - 2
Anderson, Joey $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0) RW RFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Nylander, W.		Tavares, J.		Marner, M.
	Rielly, M.		Matthews, A.

Power Play 2
Kase, O.		Kerfoot, A.		Bunting, M.
	Sandin, R.		Spezza, J.

Penalty Kill 1
	Kämpf, D.	Marner, M.
	Rielly, M.	Brodie, T.

Penalty Kill 2
	Engvall, P.	Mikheyev, I.
	Muzzin, J.	Whitecloud, Z.

Feb. 16, 2022 at 4:22 p.m.

leafs101

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Don't read into the price I paid for Whitecloud/Dadonov too much - this i was unsure of and wanted thoughts on.

Feb. 16, 2022 at 4:27 p.m.

VGKNation702

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Lol we’re not trading Whitecloud, an under 25 RHD that’s locked up UNDER 3 million for the next 6 years….

Trade a pick with Dadanov elsewhere, we’re not gonna add great assets as a sweetener, come on. 🙄

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Feb. 16, 2022 at 4:28 p.m.

Letter_Kenny

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Why would Vegas trade Whitecloud?

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Feb. 16, 2022 at 4:34 p.m.

The_Rocket

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Why wouldn’t Vegas just trade dadonov for a 4th? Why would they give up white cloud to get rid of him?

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Feb. 16, 2022 at 4:36 p.m.

OldNYIfan

Once a Kings Fan Too

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Just because Las Vegas has four primary defensemen (at least two of whom are "veteran" enough to represent an injury risk) doesn't mean that they'd be willing to trade a young guy on a long-term team-friendly contract. Guys like Whitecloud and Coghlan and Hague are valuable to the Golden Knights out of all proportion to their cap hit precisely because they're cheap.

Note that Dadonov also has a ten-team no-trade clause in his contract.

Feb. 16, 2022 at 4:40 p.m.

palhal

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So you think that Vegas has cap issues next season.? How about the Leafs when Whitecloud and Reilly get their already signed increases of 5m. Then RFA Liljegren, Sandin, Kase, and Engvall to sign. Plus the UFAs or their replacements.

Feb. 16, 2022 at 4:46 p.m.

GeneralLandro

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Ritchie going to cost more to dump

Feb. 16, 2022 at 6:25 p.m.

leafs101

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Quoting: The_Rocket

Why wouldn’t Vegas just trade dadonov for a 4th? Why would they give up white cloud to get rid of him?

well i guess the rationale was that you'd have to retain which they can't really do

Feb. 16, 2022 at 7:40 p.m.

tmlfan93

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Quoting: VGKNation702

Only the leafs have to add a 1st to unload one year of Ritche @2.5m lol I love how Leafs are the only trade on this site that need to anti up a 1st to unload dead weight or not paying enough for other teams bad situations.

Feb. 16, 2022 at 7:54 p.m.

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VGKNation702

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Quoting: tmlfan93

Only the leafs have to add a 1st to unload one year of Ritche 2.5m lol I love how Leafs are the only trade on this site that need to anti up a 1st to unload dead weight or not paying enough for other teams bad situations.

See this is the thing, Ritche is dead weight, Dadanov, while not worth the 5 million that Ottawa threw at him is still a very useable player and can be a top 6 winger on a dozen teams lol. Watch his numbers sky rocket playing with Patches and Eichel lol.

the point is were not adding Whitecloud as a sweetner. zero chance

Feb. 16, 2022 at 11:50 p.m.

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vols94

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Quoting: Letter_Kenny

Why would Vegas trade Whitecloud?

The question is if Ritchie and a 3rd 2 yrs from now would move ritchie he would have been traded already

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