That's a lot of cap space

Enough for a Radulov hmmm

Yup

Could sit Fischer or even Heinen for Radulov

Definitely Fischer. Heinen has been awesome

Yep. But Hextall will stand pat and let Simon get a regular shift

You mean Sully?

I don't hate it, but personally not huge on Schenn, and not really an upgrade except in size. I'd much rather try to get Crouse from Ari and Stanford is a 4th liner imo while Paul is similar to ZAR role. If that Cap was used on like JT Miller or Boeser that'd be great, but I think the guys you got are fairly redundant to what we have, just adding size. I think 2 guys like Crouse and Namestikov would be better for the system and hopefully balance the lines

Both

You can’t trade Kappy and ZAR for Paul and Sanford. Both are just rentals. We gave up a 1st round pick(15 overall) and a “B, B-“ prospect for Kappy just 1.5 years ago.

And so far with the Pens, he’s had 20 goals and 54 points in 91 games. That’s .6PPG and he hasn’t played great(So he has a pretty high “floor”).

Let him get hot for acouple weeks or a month and he’s a 20 goal scorer again(so a high ceiling too). Plus he’s controllable and just turned 26.

And ZAR has 156 “hits” in 43 games(only guys with more are Brady Thachuk, R.Gudas, Cal Clutterbuck, RyanReeves, Nicolas Deslauriers, and Alexander Romanov) And he contributes offensively enough.

Kapanen has been invisible all season. What offence does ZAR contribute?

also, my RHD just got moved to Tor so sad me

Same here. Loved Ilya

I wanted so badly for them to use Kap to get Ilya and Crouse

Your crazy .If Kappy’s “floor” is 9 goals and 24 points in 50 games this season( .5PPG). When he’s not playing well. I’ll take it. Again, let him get hot for acouple weeks or a month and he’s a 20 goal scorer again(or atleast 30 points in 40 games like last season; .75PPg).

ZAR had 9 goals and 15 points in 43 games last season. That’s not nothing. That’s enough for a 4th line, defensive, PK specialist. Plays against the opponents top line every night.

Just as much or more than Nick Paul. And the same as ZachStanford’s production last season(10 goals and 16 points in 52 games) and ZAR played less games. Plus ZAR better defensively and way more physical.

Good luck. Not gonna happen. .00000000000001% chance any of these trades or any trades on the site happen. I said what I think.

Not worth the argument with someone that’s just gonna reply. “What offense”..lol. When talking about a 4th line player, that gets Selke votes and one of the best defensive and most physical players in the NHL. He contributes more than enough offensively. If you don’t understand that; I can’t help u.

Brock Mcginn is on fourth line and does just as much?

ahhh very conflicted on that deal

In terms of value, I want to make that deal for sure but :

Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson
Formenton - Stutzle - Kapanen
Paul - Pinto - Brown
Crookshank - White - Watson

Would Kapanen succeed like that? And can't they get a better winger for Stutzle? Stuzle is the playmaker and Formenton is kinda underrated in that aspect. However Ridly Greig might just take the spot away from him as he's very good. In that case, and if the deal happens :


Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson
Greig - Stutzle - Kapanen
Formenton - Pinto - Brown
Crookshank - White - Aston-Reese
Watson

If the Pens are ready to do that, I'm open to the deal.

Nope. Brock McGinn has been on Geno’s line.

4th line has been ZAR/Boyle/D.Simon

And no he does not. Not as physical and ZAR way better defensively and on the PK.

And ZAR has just as much offensive production as McGinn too. So your super wrong about your “what offensive” comment.

And you do know ZAR was the Hobey Baker runner up in college?? 31 goals and 63 points in 38 games his Senior season. Revamped his whole game to become a bottom 6 and high end defensive player.

Go look at ZachAstonReese elite prospect page and do some homework on the type of player he is.

McGinn hasnt scored on Genos line.

He hasn’t played on the 4th line. And not the point.
ZAR > McGinn. Anyone who watches the Pens will tell you that.have a good day my man. Good luck with everything.!!

Watch every game and that is so false lol

And you do know ZAR was the Hobey Baker runner up in college?? 31 goals and 63 points in 38 games his Senior season. Revamped his whole game to become a tough bottom 6, PK specialist and high end defensive player.

https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/98068/zach-aston-reese


Brock McGinn never had Selke Votes. ZAR has. ZAR better defensively, better PK.

ZAR has 156 “hits” in 43 games(only guys with more are Brady Thachuk, R.Gudas, Cal Clutterbuck, RyanReeves, Nicolas Deslauriers, and Alexander Romanov).

McGinn has 76 “hits”. Not as physical. And both equally offensively adept. McGinn playing with better offensive players. Put ZAR with them and he’d outproduce him. They are close enough to call them equal anyways.

ZAR has been with offensive guys and he didnt produce.

I think you are grass is greenering this.
1st off, what you get out of OTT might not be what you expect. CBJ learned that the hard way on Dzingle.
You got two guys there who's production isn't really great on a team that isn't really stacked. To be honest I don't think you get the same production out of them on the penguins. Someone has to score you know. Which means points occur on guys who probably aren't getting them when it counts.

I also think you are way to hard on Kap.
Yeah, ok, you can say Kap hasn't done much, which frankly isn't really true. He's still had 20 goals in his time here in 91 games or what have you. He's been basically a 20 goal guy.

But he's in a spot where he has to A. to share the puck. He's not the only goal scorer on the team.
B. his whole year has been a mess. 1st geno was out a long time, 2nd Zucker has been out a long time. So it's not like he's had a lot of stability in that mix mash line.

Fact is people want to be down on him. He's had 11 games where he's been quiet.
But you take out those 11 games and what you get for the 3.2 mil cap hit is about what you'd expect.
Goals come in bunches. Especially for a younger player. It's not like he's a guy who gets PP time, it's 20 seconds at the end of a PP here and there as the first unit gets off the ice. So he has to earn his points the hard way.
Just a comparison for you. In 40 games Crosby is 7 goals and 12 points in 5v5 play.
In 51 Kap is 9 goals 16 points in 5v5 play.
If Kap is invisible then what is Crosby?
As the 5v5 production is really not a huge canyon apart.
Maybe stop hating on the guy. Let him play. It's fine.

Not as good of offensive linemates as McGinn. It doenst even matter though. Their offensive production is still similar with or without linemates comparison. And ZAR much better defensively; better PK, and ZAR much more physical.

***Copy and paste (He kept the Jake Guentzel-Sidney Crosby-Bryan Rust and Zach Aston-Reese-Brian Boyle-Dominik Simon units intact, but put Jeff Carter and Danton Heinen on Evgeni Malkin's wings and had Brock McGinn and Kasperi Kapanen flanking Evan Rodrigues.

Previously, McGinn and Kapanen had been with Malkin, while the third line had been Heinen-Carter-Rodrigues).

And you do know ZAR was the Hobey Baker runner up in college?? 31 goals and 63 points in 38 games his Senior season. Revamped his whole game to become a tough bottom 6, PK specialist and high end defensive player. Still has that offensive touch when he needs it too.