No

How would you adjust?

Nope. Need a 1st or two 2nds to dump Mrazek, a 1st for Fleury and a 1st and top prospect for Hagel (that's assuming we're even willing to trade him). I'd prefer some else besides Liljegren. Maybe Robertson?

The Chicago one probably isn't terribly far off, probably need to add another piece.

The Seattle one though, you're missing at least another 1st round pick.

What he said

What about including Engvall instead of another 2nd?

Value-wise I could see it, it's not far off, but Chicago is rebuilding. We're going to want picks and prospects before anything else.

That's just what silly fans think. Mrazek has been a decent goalie for a number of years but isn't finding success in TO. So that now means he's worthless and was never good and will never be good. GM's aren't that dumb. To move him now would cost something for sure but I wager there are teams that would welcome him and his cap hit so moving him may be easier than people think. For crying out loud, the Leafs got rid of the much worse contract in Ritchie for a 3rd and got Lyubushkin out of it. So obviously it's not going to be as hard as people on here want it to be.

Why do you guys want to jettison Engvall? He's been very good all year.

It's crazy that people think Dubas is just going to hand out firsts to get rid of a contract (or a couple seconds). It's insane.

Buy him out at the end of the year, saves more than $2M in cap.

Moving him in the offseason won't be that hard. The Leafs weren't the only team interested in him this past off season and one string of bad luck won't erase his career. Once the goalie market is figured this summer teams that miss out will turn to Mrazek to get him cheap. I doubt it'll cost the leafs to move him but the return will be essentially nothing.

You sir, are intelligent.

Honestly, I don't see why more Leafs fans aren't talking about this.

You still are going to have to pay to get rid of him. You can't just say "look how well he did in Carolina" when they have one of if not the best defensive cores in the league. I'd think it'd be smarter to buy him out and take a small L than to have to pay a decent pick.

Fans want to shed the cap right this minute so they can overpay for a rental. Which is dumb on multiple fronts.

Logan's post above is probably the more realistic result (trade him in the offseason), buying him out would be a last resort.

Also doesn't help that Flower is unlikely to leave Chicago.

This is what fans want but it's just fickle. Most people love to see the Leafs get hurt and it's nonsense bias. The reality is Mrazek is better than he's looked this season. That doesn't erase the past. He is moveable in the off season.

He's moveable, but I doubt someone's gonna pay to get him (although I will say GMs can be... interesting)

It's not insane to say what the cost is. But it is insane to think Dubas would actually pay to do it.

They aren’t going to buy out Mrazek lol.

So you'll pay some decent assets to dump him? Why not just accept your L and move on?

Imo, dead cap space over the next four years is the exact opposite thing Dubas will want for this team. These are our prime contending years, and we’ve been through this exercise several times now with other players. It’s hard enough creating quality depth with term in our bottom 6.

But honestly, this is a moot point anyway, because I think posters saying it’ll cost a 1st to move him are simply wrong. It’s a buy-low scenario not a cap dump. Theres just not enough data here to suggest Mrazek has lost his ability to play in the NHL, and there are plenty of teams looking for an answer between their pipes.

People get amnesia with this team and forget how hard this market is on some players. This team also hasn’t been stellar in front of their goalies on most nights, playing high octane offence. You don’t need to look much further than how Andersen and Mrazek have played for each team lol.

Just my opinion, let’s see how it unfolds!

Well, we'll see. Who knows, lol?

Petry is supposed to be worth a 1st and has been awful. But used to be good. Mrazek used to be good, GM's don't forget

Exactly

Chiarot is terrible and was completely carried by Weber and still got a 1st while getting completely caved in all season. Manson hasn't been overly good for 3-4 seasons and has value. What fans think on here often is emotional and silly