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I don’t see NYR doing that deal.

Mar. 22, 2022 at 9:33 p.m.

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Quoting: NYR1983

I don’t see NYR doing that deal.

Aight, what do we need to add?

Mar. 22, 2022 at 9:34 p.m.

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aint getting picks for brent burns LMFAO

Mar. 22, 2022 at 9:36 p.m.

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aint getting picks for brent burns LMFAO

I mean, he’s a black hole defensively, but he’s put up 40 points in 62 games behind a poor offense. Moving him to a better system with a better offense would really help him to keep steady. At only 5mil, I’m sure you could get positive value.

Mar. 22, 2022 at 9:48 p.m.

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Quoting: Bias_it_self

Aight, what do we need to add?

He’s worth more than a late 1st. He’s NHL ready. 2 years left on the ELC. It’s really tough to say. Our position of need is C and I doubt Eklund is available for a swap. So maybe just to put a value in there.

Lundkvist & 2nd in 23’ for Reimer & 1st in 22’. Maybe just a 22’ 1st swap. Just thinking of ideas to balance it. Just adding a 3rd or 4th or low prospect isn’t going to do it

Mar. 22, 2022 at 9:57 p.m.

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1st are off limits for now. I’d value Reimer with the 1 mil retention at about a 2nd and 4th. Maybe:

Lundkvist for Reimer 1mil retained, and both ‘23 2nds?

Mar. 22, 2022 at 10:13 p.m.

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Quoting: Bias_it_self

1st are off limits for now. I’d value Reimer with the 1 mil retention at about a 2nd and 4th. Maybe:

Lundkvist for Reimer 1mil retained, and both ‘23 2nds?

That probably does it.

Mar. 22, 2022 at 10:43 p.m.

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Lol suggesting an Eklund Lundqvist swap???? A top 10 pick plus a cheap vet goalie for him? All terribly swayed in NYR favor and ridiculous.

Mar. 22, 2022 at 10:46 p.m.

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Quoting: Bias_it_self

1st are off limits for now. I’d value Reimer with the 1 mil retention at about a 2nd and 4th. Maybe:

Lundkvist for Reimer 1mil retained, and both ‘23 2nds?

Not even that, Lundqvist is being way overvalued by this guy. He suggested an swap with him and Eklund, that or taking the sharks top 10 pick. That’s not even close.

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Mar. 22, 2022 at 10:47 p.m.

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Not even that, Lundqvist is being way overvalued by this guy. He suggested an swap with him and Eklund, that or taking the sharks top 10 pick. That’s not even close.

That's what I thought, but I wanted to try and find a middle ground.

Mar. 22, 2022 at 10:50 p.m.

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Quoting: Bias_it_self

he's also 37
although as u said him at 5 mill is intriguing
Dont see pens moving a 2nd for him as they are looking to restock the cabinets

Mar. 22, 2022 at 11:36 p.m.

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aint getting picks for brent burns LMFAO

No chance there isn't at least some market for Burns with what guys like Seth Jones and Ristolainen returned. Justified or not, the market for offensive RHD is still very bloated. He's not in his prime anymore but he's not really regressed that much considering his age and he's tied for 12th in scoring amongst defensemen right now.

Mar. 22, 2022 at 11:41 p.m.

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Really like it all (at least from a "who I think we should trade" perspective). Not totally sure on values but yeah good stuff

Mar. 22, 2022 at 11:57 p.m.

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Really like it all (at least from a "who I think we should trade" perspective). Not totally sure on values but yeah good stuff

What would you change on the value front?

Mar. 23, 2022 at 12:28 a.m.

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let’s play Devils advocate, say we do draft Lambert. then we have Bordeleau Lambert Robins Reedy Weatherby to go along with Bonino Couture and Hertl at C but nothing past Merkley and Laroque on RD in the minors and an aging Burns and Karlsson on the big club.

let’s put a package out of Reimer 1 mil retained plus Robins and for Lunqvist.
would that be fair? who would have to add?

Robins is very offensively talented and has top 6 ceiling but is a tad undersized, but i don’t see much chance he squeezes into the lineup over guys like Lambert Coe and Weisblatt or Meier and Barabanov. and Lundqvist is talented but blocked by Schneider Fox and trouba. this would benifit all players and teams involved

Mar. 23, 2022 at 1:15 a.m.

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Don't see NYR moving Lundkvist for an aging backup goalie...
Lundkvist is an A* tier prospect, so I would say it would be something like:

To SJS:
Reunanen
2024 4th

To NYR:
Reimer (50% retained)
2023 6th

Mar. 23, 2022 at 7:30 a.m.

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Quoting: glarson17

Lol suggesting an Eklund Lundqvist swap???? A top 10 pick plus a cheap vet goalie for him? All terribly swayed in NYR favor and ridiculous.

Read my comment again. You’ve clearly misinterpreted it. I suggested Eklund is clearly off the table and never said it would be 1 for 1. 🤦🏻‍♂️. Then I proceeded to offer potential trades.

Mar. 23, 2022 at 7:37 a.m.

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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks

Don’t know much about Robins tbh. The issue here is we likely wouldn’t move him to downgrade prospects. I’ve been thinking a lot about Lundkvist & Jones for Perunovich. While STL might need more prospects after they have been moving picks to compete this fills their basket and NYR get the guy with the best fit for our organization. Above I suggested reimer and two 2nds might work, I see drury wanted to draft multiple C prospects and hoping they stick. Robins might not be enough but I’m going to look into him when I have some time today 👍🏼

Mar. 23, 2022 at 8:24 a.m.

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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks

Just looked up his #’s. They look pretty solid, I guess it would come down to proper scouting and if he fits the ideal C that Drury would want. On paper it looks like a decent deal.

Mar. 23, 2022 at 10:54 a.m.

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Quoting: NYR1983

We are talking about the same Nils Lundqvist right? He’s projecting as a 3rd pairing defenseman, why would he give up so much for him? I wouldn’t give up Robins for him 1 for 1 at this point.

Mar. 23, 2022 at 10:59 a.m.

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Quoting: Finski

How is a projecting 3rd pairing guy an A prospect?

Mar. 23, 2022 at 11:01 a.m.

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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks

I wouldn’t do Robins 1 for 1 with him, he’s projecting at a 3rd pairing guy. Much higher ceiling on Robins

Mar. 23, 2022 at 11:10 a.m.

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Quoting: NYR1983

Just looked up his #’s. They look pretty solid, I guess it would come down to proper scouting and if he fits the ideal C that Drury would want. On paper it looks like a decent deal.

Robins Reimer 50% retaines and a 4th for Lundqvist
3rd for Georgiev.
NYR adds a C/RW prospect with a high ceiling, one of the best backup goalies in the league and 2 picks
To me this is a slam dunk for NYR, the sharks and whoever gets Georgiev! plus all players involved get into a situation to better their careers. Lundqvist gets and Georgiev get a chance to be full time starters, Reimer gets another chance at a cup and Robins now has a chance to get top 9 min in a year.

Mar. 23, 2022 at 11:23 a.m.

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Quoting: Finski

Lundqvist is a good prospect, but he is more a b+ prospect.
Reimer is one of the best backup net-minders in the game.
your post above isn't fair to me, I like Reunanen but he is 24 and hasn't been able to crack your lineup yet, at best he is a 3rd round comp.
Reimer value with 50% this offseason would be roughly a 2nd and a prospect like Reunanen
Reimer 50% retained plus Robins who is a b- grade prospect for Lundquvist (b+ prospect) would be an overpament to NYR, but it fills an massive hole in the sharks prospect Depth chart from 2 of its strengths, and NYR would fill 2 massive holes in their depth chart (dependable vet backup netminder for just over 1 mil and C prospect depth) for 1 who has no shot at making the team full time other than an injury replacement.
this then allows both teams to use their 1st this year filling other holes in their prospect pool's
how would this not be a win win for both clubs?

Mar. 23, 2022 at 11:43 a.m.

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