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If Bergeron retires sell off to tank for Bedard or Michkov and retool

Created by: ronan00
Team: 2022-23 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 12, 2022
Published: Apr. 12, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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This is only an idea, I don't think this is for the best I just think its an interesting experiment

***This does not go into free agency, that could obviously change things significantly with the leftover cap, not an opening night roster***

Can't wait to see how badly people view this because I know this will get some kickback, just not sure who from lol
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$975,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$925,000
Trades
1.
BOS
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
  2. 2022 5th round pick (SEA)
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
Comparable return: Viktor Arvidsson
SEA
  1. Ahcan, Jack [RFA Rights]
  2. DeBrusk, Jake
Additional Details:
Seattle has Ryan Donato playing on Benier's wing, they could use a someone with a goalscorers touch, like DeBrusk, who has upped his value considerably, 2 2nds since he's having a better season than when Arvidsson was traded for a 2nd and a 3rd

Ahcan is capable of an playing a regular NHL role on a lesser team, I just included him to get him somewhere he can play regularly, he makes up the 5th
2.
BOS
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (WSH)
WSH
  1. Haula, Erik
Additional Details:
Haula has been solid at 2nd line centre with stud linemates, there seems to be no consistancy with the level of players who get a 2nd as a return, sometimes its Jeremy Lauzon, sometimes its Pavel Buchnevich

Washington is just a filler team, not sure where the best fit is
3.
BOS
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (NJD)
  2. 2024 4th round pick (NJD)
Additional Details:
Comparable return: Kuemper got a 1st after a worse season but on a much worse team, I don't think a 2nd and 4th is crazy when factoring in contract and the trade protection
NJD
  1. Ullmark, Linus
Additional Details:
Either the New Jersey or Edmonton, both teams need a goalie

Of course its depending on Ullmark waiving which I'm not convinced about
4.
BOS
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Reilly, Mike
Additional Details:
I've seen both sides do this trade a lot so I'm rolling with it, Bruins get cap space and free up a logjam at 2nd/3rd pair LD and Isles get an very good analytical defenceman
5.
BOS
  1. Monahan, Sean
  2. Pelletier, Jakob
  3. Zary, Connor
  4. 2023 1st round pick (CGY)
  5. 2024 2nd round pick (CGY)
Additional Details:
Briuns take on Monahan for a 2nd to make the money work, very similar deal to the Leafs dumping Marleau to the canes, if the flames don't want this take out Monahan and the 2nd

Comparable return: Hagel to Tampa bay trade on steroids mixed with the Marleau trade to Carolina
CGY
  1. Marchand, Brad ($2,625,000 retained)
  2. Nosek, Tomas
  3. Smith, Craig ($1,550,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Marchand at 3.5 million for 3 years is an insane contract, he's going to be elite for the next 2 at least and he's going to be behind Gaudreau likely and pushing Mangiapane down to the 3rd line, thats a cup winning formula, if Hagel returns 2 1sts because of his contract Marchand is easily worth more

Smith is a solid, reliable and hard working middle 6 guy who can play up and down the lineup when he has to

Nosek is a good bottom 6 guy I think the flames would like too, versitile forward
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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Logo of the NJD
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$82,500,000$69,283,750$0$150,000$13,216,250
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333
LW, C
RFA - 3
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$6,666,667$6,666,667
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
LW
RFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$894,167$894,167
RW
RFA - 4
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$975,000$975,000
RW, C
RFA - 2
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$883,750$883,750
C
RFA - 1
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$3,800,000$3,800,000
LW, C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,375,000$6,375,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
NTC, NMC
UFA - 8
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
UFA - 8
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$150,000$150K)
G
RFA - 1
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$3,687,500$3,687,500
LD
UFA - 2
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
RD
UFA - 5
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$825,000$825,000
G
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
G
UFA - 1

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Apr. 12, 2022 at 12:18 p.m.
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I think replacing him will be the best option - they are still a very competitive team without him. Tanking wouldn't be the best option.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 12:28 p.m.
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The problem is that top four on the back end is just too good to allow a tank.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 12:30 p.m.
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i ask you this: is this team worse than anything Seattle, Arizona, or Chicago is putting on the ice next year?

I think it's more likely they finish 9/10 in the East and get stuck in that no man's land around the 12th pick where they need crazy luck to advance up the lottery.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 12:37 p.m.
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Getting Marchand for 3.5 would be incredible for any team.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 12:40 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
The problem is that top four on the back end is just too good to allow a tank.


yup. That's why I don't like the Lindholm extension bc now they're just gonna be in limbo of being decent but not cup contenders for awhile when Bergeron and/or Marchand are gone unless they strike gold and find a 1C out of nowhere.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 12:45 p.m.
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yup. That's why I don't like the Lindholm extension bc now they're just gonna be in limbo of being decent but not cup contenders for awhile when Bergeron and/or Marchand are gone unless they strike gold and find a 1C out of nowhere.


Not signing a guy to a long-term contract at a good number because you’re worried it won’t allow you to be bad would be pretty silly. Frankly, i think mcavoy is enough to keep them from being real bad. Just need to get a center.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 1:02 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Not signing a guy to a long-term contract at a good number because you’re worried it won’t allow you to be bad would be pretty silly. Frankly, i think mcavoy is enough to keep them from being real bad. Just need to get a center.


agreed on getting a center but getting that true 1C that they'd need is a lot easier said than done. I would have sold Marchy, Pasta, Carlo, Hall over the couple years following Bergeron's retirement, take an absolute haul, and rebuild through the draft with Swayman, Lysell, and McAvoy as really the only pieces moving forward with in the future.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 2:02 p.m.
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In this very hypothetical situation, would NJD1 unprotected, Ty Smith, and Alex Holtz bring back McAvoy? or at least start the conversation?
Apr. 12, 2022 at 2:09 p.m.
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In this very hypothetical situation, would NJD1 unprotected, Ty Smith, and Alex Holtz bring back McAvoy? or at least start the conversation?


no. you dont trade young franchise dmen. ever. theres 3 things you never move. young franchise center. young franchise dman. young franchise goalie. imo this list is pretty small. when i say franchise i mean like best of the best. bergeron/matthews/mcdavid/draisaitl guys that you cannot replace. bruins no matter what they get back in terms of assets cannot replace mcavoy lol.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 2:31 p.m.
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no. you dont trade young franchise dmen. ever. theres 3 things you never move. young franchise center. young franchise dman. young franchise goalie. imo this list is pretty small. when i say franchise i mean like best of the best. bergeron/matthews/mcdavid/draisaitl guys that you cannot replace. bruins no matter what they get back in terms of assets cannot replace mcavoy lol.


I mean, you probably /do/ trade them if youre committing to a full tank for Bedard and the '24/'25 guys but sure. Thanks!
Apr. 12, 2022 at 2:34 p.m.
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
I mean, you probably /do/ trade them if youre committing to a full tank for Bedard and the '24/'25 guys but sure. Thanks!


you trade lindholm forbort reilly grz in a sell off full tank, you dont trade 24 year old mcavoy. you still have to have quality players even if you get bedard... otherwise you just end up like ottawa/buffalo. years of sucking.
 
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