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Fiala for Holtz

Created by: lordgriffith
Team: 2022-23 Minnesota Wild
Initial Creation Date: May 19, 2022
Published: May 19, 2022
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There seems to be traction on HFBoards around Fiala for Holtz + a mid level asset.

I'm not sure how much Middleton will demand, but I think we try to re-sign him.
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  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (NJD)
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  1. Fiala, Kevin [RFA Rights]
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22$82,500,000$80,848,588$0$2,300,000$1,651,412
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$7,575,000$7,575,000
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May 19, 2022 at 2:11 p.m.
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I'm a Fiala fan but he's not a guy you move Alex Holtz for imo
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May 19, 2022 at 2:12 p.m.
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i don’t see the devils doing that
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May 19, 2022 at 2:14 p.m.
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“There seems to be traction on HFBoards”

Not inspiring at all
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May 19, 2022 at 2:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
I'm a Fiala fan but he's not a guy you move Alex Holtz for imo


Why is that? Is Holtz's ceiling that much higher than where Fiala is now? Or is your concern more around cost control?
May 19, 2022 at 2:46 p.m.
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Quoting: lordgriffith
Why is that? Is Holtz's ceiling that much higher than where Fiala is now? Or is your concern more around cost control?


I think he's got a lot more upside as a goal scorer than Fiala. He's 5 years younger, and I think he's going to have the better career when it's all said and done.
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May 19, 2022 at 6:50 p.m.
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Quoting: lordgriffith
Why is that? Is Holtz's ceiling that much higher than where Fiala is now? Or is your concern more around cost control?


Statistically speaking, it’s more likely than not that Holtz does not achieve Fiala’s production. That said, it is close. I can see why people would rather keep Holtz. But it really boils down to risk tolerance. Holtz is by no means a lock to ever be as good - not even close.

Here’s a cursory look at how 7th OAs have fared (ie Holtz’s exact draft position:



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May 19, 2022 at 7:26 p.m.
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Devils would rather keep the younger, cost controlled player
May 19, 2022 at 9:27 p.m.
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Why is that? Is Holtz's ceiling that much higher than where Fiala is now? Or is your concern more around cost control?


imo with bratt likely getting a big deal this offseason and hischier, hughes and hamilton all having them already, the devils shouldn't lock themselves into more massive contracts when they have a lot of good ELC talent. fiala for sure could end up being better than holtz ever will be, but since the devs aren't competitive yet, i feel like they should hesitate before signing another player to a big AAV deal.
 
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