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Created by: TheTypicalLeafsFan
Team: 2022-23 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: May 23, 2022
Published: May 23, 2022
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The Isles are big trouble when it comes to an Offersheet if Dobson is OS for 7mill they won't have enough to match and if they do match they have no way of improving the roster
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1$750,000
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PIT
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (NYI)
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NYI
  1. 2023 1st round pick (VAN)
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (VAN)
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Dobson, Noah [RFA Rights]
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2022
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22$82,500,000$76,871,805$245,796$1,402,500$5,628,195
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
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UFA - 1
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G
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$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
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$764,167$764,167 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
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May 23, 2022 at 4:38 a.m.
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If someone offers 7x5, NYI matches and thanks that team
May 23, 2022 at 4:46 a.m.
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they would just trade bailey and/or bury ross johnston in the minors and would be fine
May 23, 2022 at 4:55 a.m.
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Quoting: islesadist
they would just trade bailey and/or bury ross johnston in the minors and would be fine


Bailey will cost assest to get rid of. even doing on all that all you are doing is making the team worse, it makes no sense to spend that type of money when your deep on the Right side. The isles still need a few scoring Wingers and a puck moving LHD, might be better to take the picks in a deep draft and the money and place it in other areas to make the team better
May 23, 2022 at 4:55 a.m.
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If someone offers 7x5, NYI matches and thanks that team


With what cap space
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May 23, 2022 at 6:20 a.m.
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They could simply trade 1 player and be fine.

Also, no one offer sheets
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May 23, 2022 at 6:21 a.m.
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they would just trade bailey and/or bury ross johnston in the minors and would be fine


Or varmalov, or not trade for pettersson like this guy did
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May 23, 2022 at 7:15 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
They could simply trade 1 player and be fine.

Also, no one offer sheets


I really wish teams would
May 23, 2022 at 7:43 a.m.
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I really wish teams would


Me too
May 23, 2022 at 8:05 a.m.
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First off, no one will be offersheeting Lou. We have like 12M in cap space so we can easily afford any offer sheet he would get.
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May 23, 2022 at 8:12 a.m.
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First off, no one will be offersheeting Lou. We have like 12M in cap space so we can easily afford any offer sheet he would get.


12 Mill to fill out 2 spots on LHD and Dobson and getting a scoring winger, and honestly if anyone was going to offer sheet a gm it would be Lou, He's gotta be the worst GM in the league
May 23, 2022 at 8:17 a.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
12 Mill to fill out 2 spots on LHD and Dobson and getting a scoring winger, and honestly if anyone was going to offer sheet a gm it would be Lou, He's gotta be the worst GM in the league


Yeah but we can afford any Dobson offersheet, which he wont be getting one. No one offer sheets in general, never mind Lou. People are afraid of doing that to him. So 🤷🏻‍♂️
May 23, 2022 at 8:49 a.m.
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I love how you first trade for pettersson and then say "how are you gonna match it you dont have cap space" how about they dont trade for another significant contract without getting rid of one until they sign dobson?
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May 23, 2022 at 8:55 a.m.
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Quoting: Marcheesy
Yeah but we can afford any Dobson offersheet, which he wont be getting one. No one offer sheets in general, never mind Lou. People are afraid of doing that to him. So 🤷🏻‍♂️


I don't think it happens but i do think the threat is there
May 23, 2022 at 8:57 a.m.
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I don't think it happens but i do think the threat is there


There is absolutely no threat. 7x5 wont get it done, it would have to be 7x7 at least
May 23, 2022 at 8:58 a.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
I don't think it happens but i do think the threat is there


This guy traded for another 4+ million contract without moving any cap out, the isles are now short like 500k from matching and says they dont have enough cap. Thats the most backwards logic ive ever seen.
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May 23, 2022 at 9:15 a.m.
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Edited May 23, 2022 at 9:28 a.m.
Quoting: TheTypicalLeafsFan
Bailey will cost assest to get rid of. even doing on all that all you are doing is making the team worse, it makes no sense to spend that type of money when your deep on the Right side. The isles still need a few scoring Wingers and a puck moving LHD, might be better to take the picks in a deep draft and the money and place it in other areas to make the team better


Quoting: TheTypicalLeafsFan
With what cap space


This is the worst argument I’ve ever seen on this site. The islanders offense runs through Dobson and you traded for a 6th defenseman making 4 mill , then you say the isles can’t afford Dobson.

Let’s do some simple math - if you don’t trade for Pettersson the isles have 9.6 mill in cap space and can easily match a 7 mill OS. They can then trade Varlamov which opens up another 5 mill, that’s 14.6 mill. The isles would then have 7.6 mill so sign a backup goaltender and 2LD.

Worry about Sandin and Liljeren getting OS. I’m sure Sandin really wants to stay when he’s blocked by Muzzin and Giordano.
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May 23, 2022 at 9:23 a.m.
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12 Mill to fill out 2 spots on LHD and Dobson and getting a scoring winger, and honestly if anyone was going to offer sheet a gm it would be Lou, He's gotta be the worst GM in the league


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I don't think it happens but i do think the threat is there



One of the isles 2 LHD spots will be filled by their top LHD prospect on a league minimum contract. 12 million is a ton of cap space.

If you actually think the threat is there to pry Dobson out of NYI, you are delusional. There’s a higher chance pettersson gets traded than Dobson signing an OS and isles not matching.
May 23, 2022 at 9:33 a.m.
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One of the isles 2 LHD spots will be filled by their top LHD prospect on a league minimum contract. 12 million is a ton of cap space.

If you actually think the threat is there to pry Dobson out of NYI, you are delusional. There’s a higher chance pettersson gets traded than Dobson signing an OS and isles not matching.


I mean Marcus Pettersson has been on the block for some time... I never said that the isles don't match just the threat of an offer sheet is there
May 23, 2022 at 9:36 a.m.
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I mean Marcus Pettersson has been on the block for some time... I never said that the isles don't match just the threat of an offer sheet is there


Dobson has be willing to sign the offersheet, the odds of him doing that are extremely low.

Which team could realistically OS Dobson?
May 23, 2022 at 9:39 a.m.
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I mean Marcus Pettersson has been on the block for some time... I never said that the isles don't match just the threat of an offer sheet is there


imo the isles would match any offersheet unless it got into the multiple first rounders territory. a team would have to pay dobson 9+ mil to pry him out of here, and even then we still might match. no one wants to offer sheet a guy in that compensation tier.
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May 23, 2022 at 9:48 a.m.
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Quoting: TheTypicalLeafsFan
With what cap space


They have 12 mil in cap space lol. Simply don't trade for Pettersson.

"Bailey will cost assest to get rid of. even doing on all that all you are doing is making the team worse, it makes no sense to spend that type of money when your deep on the Right side. The isles still need a few scoring Wingers and a puck moving LHD, might be better to take the picks in a deep draft and the money and place it in other areas to make the team better"

You got to be a troll, wtf lol. Making the team worse by giving up assets to get rid of Bailey, better get rid of Dobson instead haha ok. So basically it'll cost more than Dobson to get rid of Bailey and Isles are just better off getting rid of Dobson instead. If you honestly believe Bailey is worth more to the Islanders team than Dobson I don't know what to tell you.
May 23, 2022 at 9:56 a.m.
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Dobson has be willing to sign the offersheet, the odds of him doing that are extremely low.

Which team could realistically OS Dobson?


teams that have the picks to do so are Ana, Air, Car, Chi, CBJ, DET, EDM. LA, MTL, NSH, NJ, OTT, PHI, SJ, SET, VAN. So you can match the fit from there i don't think it's to crazy to assume a team would try and offer him an 8,402,974 x 5 which would give up a unprotected first in the deepest draft since McDavid, it also would leave the isles 4mill to find a scoring winger i also don't think lou will be to happy to spend 16,302,975 on just RHD, like i said at the end of the day i think the Isles match but i wouldn't say it's unreasonable to think why people might think they won't
May 23, 2022 at 10:11 a.m.
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teams that have the picks to do so are Ana, Air, Car, Chi, CBJ, DET, EDM. LA, MTL, NSH, NJ, OTT, PHI, SJ, SET, VAN. So you can match the fit from there i don't think it's to crazy to assume a team would try and offer him an 8,402,974 x 5 which would give up a unprotected first in the deepest draft since McDavid, it also would leave the isles 4mill to find a scoring winger i also don't think lou will be to happy to spend 16,302,975 on just RHD, like i said at the end of the day i think the Isles match but i wouldn't say it's unreasonable to think why people might think they won't


When you figure in cap space , fit, and how GMs operate - CBJ is only somewhat realistic option and even that’s highly unlikely because Jarmo has his own business to take care of with Laine and trades with his other forwards.

Your argument to find a scoring winger makes no sense because Dobson is better than any scoring winger who’s available. He is a star #1 RHD - the isles offense runs through him. The isles don’t need to trade for a scoring winger, they just need to give Wahlstrom an increased role.

16 mill on 2 elite #1 RHD under 30 YO is actually a bargain, I don’t how you’re coming up with this. I don’t even like Lou but you’re grasping at straws here to try to justify the isles potentially not matching.
May 23, 2022 at 9:34 p.m.
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Quoting: TheTypicalLeafsFan
Bailey will cost assest to get rid of. even doing on all that all you are doing is making the team worse, it makes no sense to spend that type of money when your deep on the Right side. The isles still need a few scoring Wingers and a puck moving LHD, might be better to take the picks in a deep draft and the money and place it in other areas to make the team better


It's really not that big of a deal. There's plenty of room from to maneuver. it's not like 2020 again
 
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