Ottawa declines.

Think you put a lot of Leaf Nation trade foolishness in one post

Ottawa would say no

Philly considers
Probably accepts

The gap between Marner and Batherson is far more than the gap between the #3 d man Zub is and a the #4/5 d man that Holl is

4.9M vs 10.9M

You're right, like emoprettyboy said, 4.9M vs 10.9M is a pretty big gap.

Batherson would score a lot of points playing with Matthews too, he's quite good at passing the puck. So even if Marner is a clear upgrade, it is not worth it for Ottawa to add 6 M$ on the cap just like that (2 years less too!) and create a gigantic HOLE on RD

Ottawa doesn't do that

Zub is a pending UFA, and with their upcoming d men, he will get overtaken before long. Zub is good, a capable 2nd pair guy, but the gap between him and Holl is not a franchise defying change, not at all. Batherson is really good, but in todays league quality is valued more than anything really. Marner is a top 7 winger at worst, and if he continues playing the the way he did the 2nd half of last season he will push for top 3/4. Dubas would be fired on the spot for this based on that level of play gap, even if cap wise it’s more even. Just look at the Eichel trade; Eichel 10M forward, Tuch was a very solid forward himself at 5Mish. The gap in pays is big, but due to the gap in level of play, Vegas added a lot. Now, Batherson is better than Tuch, yes, but Marners situation has him at more value than Eichel. Not only is he the better player than Eichel was/is, but Eichel was also going into a very risky surgery + had actually requested a trade, unlike Marner has

ok that's where it goes sideways. I can assure you 100% that if he was a Maple Leafs, you'd be singing a very different tune

Of course, he'd have to come with an extension in place in a trade like that. Good thing is he wouldn't cost a lot since he doesn't produce more offense.



Why would nobody seems to be interested in that trade then? Marner makes more than DOUBLE AAV of Batherson and has 2 years less before UFA... If Batherson was paid 8.0 then I would totally agree here but his contract is a pure bargain, contenders would KILL to have Batherson and his contract. Is Marner 2 x better than Batherson? I mean if he was playing with a generational player like Matthews?