Edited Jun. 12, 2022 at 5:52 p.m.
Quoting: gretzkyghosts
Let's clear here, over their careers Olofsson averages 0.67 pts/gm and Dubois is averaging 0.66 pts/gm.
While these may not be the pieces you would want, this is a HUGE over pay for someone whose best year is 28 goals and 61 pts.
Windjammer I am very happy that you are rejecting this trade as Buffalo should NOT be making the same mistake again of trading picks and prospects for second line players (yes, Dubois stats are more akin to a second line center).
Put Mittelstadt between Olofsson and Quinn next year then let's compare Casey and Victor to Dubois.
I would NEVER offer this much for Dubois, it is more than the Sabres got for Jack Eichel.
Mittelstadt = Krebs
Olofsson < Tuch
2022 1st round pick (VGK) = 2022 1st round pick (VGK)
2023 2nd round pick (PHI) > 2023 2nd round pick (VGK)
2022 3rd round pick (BUF) >>> nothing
Let's also remember Dubois ASKED to be traded out of Columbus, what makes you think he will want to play in Buffalo.
I would rather have 2 pieces of my second line than Dubois.
If Windjammer thinks Dubois is worth Cozens or Dahlin, you go ahead and make that post and see how many LOL's you get.
Let's not forget the most important fact in this trade proposal. It is Buffalo asking for a Winnipeg player. The Jets aren't looking to move Dubois. The Jets aren't obligated to make the trade because through all kinds of twists and turns you think it's fair value.
You bring up the Eichel trade which isn't a comparable at all. Eichel was seriously injured, Dubois isn't. Eichel was demanding a surgery that had never been performed on a hockey player before, Dubois isn't. Eichel had said he would never play for Buffalo again, Dubois hasn't said that about Winnipeg, Eichel demanded a trade, Dubois hasn't. Finally and most importantly, Eichel was traded by a woefully mismanaged Buffalo front office, Winnipeg is competently managed and is not bound by Buffalo's stupidity to accept a poor value trade comprised of players they don't need if moving Dubois.
Then you bring up Olofsson's production being similar to Dubois. No one cares, Olofsson is a winger with less responsibilities, Dubois is a 1C with more responsibilities and is 3 years younger. Olofsson is looking for a new contract. Olofsson would be Winnipeg's fourth best winger. Olofsson plays the easiest position in all of hockey to fill LW, Dubois plays the hardest position in hockey to fill 1C. Dubois makes players around him better, like Connor with 47 goals. Olofsson as a winger can't do that.
Mittlestadt while you may overrate him is nowhere close to Krebs in quality and at best is a marginal bottom six player, easily found in house by every team in the NHL. The same reason Sabres fans constantly try to dump him is the same reason no one wants him and he has very little value. The best description for him is "huge disappointment."
So, when you look at the actual facts of this proposal you can see why Winnipeg turns it down easily.
Buffalo is asking for one of Winnipeg's best young players, that the Jets have no intention of moving. If Buffalo isn't offering up one their best young players, the Jets aren't going to listen.