That Dobson trade is nowhere near fair value. Thanks but no thanks.

isles decline, dobson is untouchable

There's nothing realistic about that Dobson trade. Untouchable

NYI never does this. Insanity.

Understand that’s not fair value. Untouchable though? If we offered Jarvis Necas and Morrow for Dobson you’d still say no?

I'm not a big Necas guy so probably not the right guy to ask. But I really do think Dobson is untouchable

i mean that would start a conversation, but yeah a team would have to really provide crazy value in a deal to get them to consider moving him. it would have to be at least a seth jones type of package to get them to do it imo, there’s legit no reason not to keep him unless a team is providing can’t miss value.

I think many people are undervaluing Necas, people are overlooking it because of the year he had in a system he does not fit very well in. With this being said if this is not enough for Dobson, and he is untouchable swap Dobson with Pulock, take the 1st away and swap the 4th with a 3rd, how does that make you feel?

Pulock is 1/2 of arguably one of the top d-pairs in the NHL with Adam Pelech. He just signed a team friendly 8 year extension and it contains a full NTC. He wouldn’t waive it. Also, from a value standpoint I’m still keeping Pulock

My point is there’s not really untouchable players. Some players are more valuable than others and there’s situations like team control, good contracts, ELCs, etc that are just as important as actual player impact. I always say somebody like Jarvis is nearly untouchable but in reality he isn’t really - he’s just extremely valuable given his skill and impact, ELC and team control but if somebody overpaid for him it would be silly not to trade him.

That being said I probably over value Jarvis similarly to how isles fans over value Dobson bc I wouldn’t want to make that trade one for one.

Pulock and Dobson both are untouchable for me.



Everything said here about Pulock is why.

As for Dobson, he just had 51 points in his first year quarterbacking the PP and with a top-4 role. You don't move a guy like that. Additionally, Isles already have 2 holes on their defense (2LD 3LD), and could be looking at losing Mayfield next year opening up a spot on the right, probably the weakest area of organizational depth at the moment. Pulock and Dobson are the 2 most untouchable skaters on the roster, at least IMO.

he’s as untouchable as a player can be on this team right now, if that’s a better descriptor. on this team, he plays an invaluable role that they have literally no one else to play. if toronto wants to trade auston matthews for him one for one, obviously i’m not going to be saying “isles decline, he’s untouchable.” but 50 point, 22 year old 6’4” RDs don’t grow on trees, and this team needs more offense from the backend and more NHL caliber d-men, not less.

you seem to not understand that pulock is also a top pair RD signed to an incredible contract and that the package as written is also not enough to get them to move him

NYI counters with Slavin for Wahlstrom, Dal Colle, a 2023 1st and 2022 4th

Yep that’s fair

I mean yeah technically nobody is untouchable bc you could always offer more but if you have to give around double of someones market value to even start a conversation like thats as close to actually untouchable as there is.

If Necas doesn't fit the Canes system, all the more likelihood of him being traded. Agree that he's probably being undervalued though