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Start of a rebuild

Created by: Toner_
Team: 2022-23 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 28, 2022
Published: Jul. 2, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,225,000
2$925,000
1$925,000
1$925,000
2$925,000
Trades
1.
SJS
  1. Clutterbuck, Cal
  2. Mayfield, Scott
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (NYI)
Additional Details:
I took mayfield to replace burns and clutterbuck to help them with their cap for taking on burns. Plus I’ve seen reports of them looking to move clutterbuck anyway
NYI
  1. Burns, Brent ($4,000,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Burns is overpaid but he still puts up points. This last season he put up 54 it doesn’t have to be the islanders but If the sharks are able to get anything for him that’s a win even with half retention.
2.
SJS
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (NJD)
  2. 2023 4th round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Knyzhov, Nikolai
  2. Reimer, James
Additional Details:
Reimer can help Blackwood split games as a backup and give the devils a more competent goalie tandem. Assuming they don’t give up on Blackwood and move him.
3.
SJS
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
4.
SJS
    Trade Meier at the deadline his value will be way higher
    OTT
    Buyouts
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    2022
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    2023
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    2024
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    21$82,500,000$64,616,667$0$382,500$17,883,333
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    $6,750,000$6,750,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 8
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    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    $894,167$894,167
    LW
    RFA - 4
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    $8,000,000$8,000,000
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
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    $750,000$750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    $925,000$925,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
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    $916,667$916,667
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
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    $4,725,000$4,725,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
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    $750,000$750,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
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    $1,025,000$1,025,000
    C, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    $925,000$925,000
    LW, RW
    UFA
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    $1,750,000$1,750,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 2
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    $10,000,000$10,000,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $1,225,000$1,225,000
    G
    UFA - 2
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    $850,833$850,833 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
    LD
    RFA - 2
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    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $2,175,000$2,175,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $7,000,000$7,000,000
    LD/RD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $925,000$925,000
    LD
    UFA - 4

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    Jul. 2, 2022 at 11:48 a.m.
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    I'd be very down for this if they swing and miss on Campbell.
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    Jul. 2, 2022 at 11:52 a.m.
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    the sharks are in such a weird position. Almost none of their players are worth anything more than a 2nd. Their good players make so much money their contracts are so hard to move.
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    Jul. 2, 2022 at 11:56 a.m.
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    The Islanders just extended Cal Clutterbuck, where did you see they're trying to trade him? Stop listening to that source because they are woefully inaccurate.

    Why would the Islanders make this trade? They get vastly older, and more expensive to fill a position they're already deep in (RHD)? There's little chance these players get traded and none that the Islanders target Burns.
    Jul. 2, 2022 at 11:56 a.m.
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    I'd like to see the Clutterbuck reports because he literally just signed a 2 year extension to stay
    Jul. 2, 2022 at 12:18 p.m.
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    The Sharks lose the Islands/Devil's trades pretty badly, and this doesn't really start a rebuild. Meier is one of the only players on the roster that is still young enough to justify keeping, dumping him for a 1st in the middle/end of the draft isn't even likely to produce a player as good as he is.
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    Jul. 2, 2022 at 12:52 p.m.
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    Toner
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    Quoting: Waffelz
    The Sharks lose the Islands/Devil's trades pretty badly, and this doesn't really start a rebuild. Meier is one of the only players on the roster that is still young enough to justify keeping, dumping him for a 1st in the middle/end of the draft isn't even likely to produce a player as good as he is.


    Look at what Chicago got for Hagel teams always overpay at the deadline
    Jul. 2, 2022 at 12:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: Jester9881
    The Islanders just extended Cal Clutterbuck, where did you see they're trying to trade him? Stop listening to that source because they are woefully inaccurate.

    Why would the Islanders make this trade? They get vastly older, and more expensive to fill a position they're already deep in (RHD)? There's little chance these players get traded and none that the Islanders target Burns.


    I briefly saw it from Sheng Peng I never said it had to be the islanders my point is as long as they can sweet talk a team into getting a second for him that’s great but either way burns is an upgrade over mayfield regardless
    Jul. 2, 2022 at 3:19 p.m.
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    Quoting: Toner_
    I briefly saw it from Sheng Peng I never said it had to be the islanders my point is as long as they can sweet talk a team into getting a second for him that’s great but either way burns is an upgrade over mayfield regardless


    Not taking team needs, age, or contract into consideration, Burns is better than Mayfield right now. I promise that Mayfield would garner more in trade than Burns, even at 50% retention. Much more, without question.
    Jul. 2, 2022 at 5:12 p.m.
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    Sharks get kinda screwed in the Burns and Reimer trades. You’re right to trade them both but the value coming back isn’t great and there are probably better suitors than NYI and NJD.
    Jul. 3, 2022 at 5:15 a.m.
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    Quoting: FunMustBeAlways
    Sharks get kinda screwed in the Burns and Reimer trades. You’re right to trade them both but the value coming back isn’t great and there are probably better suitors than NYI and NJD.


    I'm just curious, what do you expect to get back from trading Burns? To start, he has a 3 team trade list, so you're already limited. I imagine he isn't waiving for a rebuilding team, so that removes anyone who would make a trade to reach the salary floor making this a cap for cap trade.
    Jul. 3, 2022 at 5:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: Jester9881
    I'm just curious, what do you expect to get back from trading Burns? To start, he has a 3 team trade list, so you're already limited. I imagine he isn't waiving for a rebuilding team, so that removes anyone who would make a trade to reach the salary floor making this a cap for cap trade.


    To preface things, despite his age, Burns is still very much a positive impact player. If on a bad Sharks team you can expect at least 45-50 point production, on a good team i think he would be even better. That’s not to say he doesn’t have some flaws but the issue just comes down to cost.

    With no retention, (assuming his NTC isn’t an issue), I wouldn’t expect a huge haul. Maybe like a 3rd or 4th or something. But the more another team expects SJ to retain, the more the price goes up. Asking the Sharks to retain $12M would probably cost at least a 2nd and good prospect or 1st and change.
     
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