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I’d take that if I’m Columbus, but Holl would likely be the 3rd pair with Bean. Peeke with Werenski and Boqvist with Gavrikov, Blankenburg would be the 7th D.

I would hope if they move Kerfoot... that they could get more than a 3rd/5th for a guy who had 51 points.

I like the thought process you put into everything. Besides more value for Kerfoot, only critique would be Rodrigues. I think he signs for more than 2 mil unfortunately for the Leafs. Would be a nice add though

Yeah, I think with Rodrigues is he had a super hot start to the season but went ice cold around January, so my mindset is some teams might be wary of him because so much of his production was from the beginning of the year. Plus his linemates were really good right, so it's like, is he breaking out, or are his linemates elevating him and he had a hot stretch? I think Rodrigues is probably in that 2 - 2.75 per year range but I made sure that there was enough cap left to sign him up to a cap hit of 3 Mill AAV.

In regards to Kerfoot, I agree, I'd like a 2nd round pick for him but I don't want to over-estimate how much we can get. Andreas Johnsson had 43 in 73 and 21 in 43 in his last 2 seasons with us, but we had cap issues and we ended up moving him to NJD for Joey Anderson who had the equivalent value of probably a 3rd round pick. Just a conservative prediction on my part.

Are Arizona taking 2.5m or 1.25m for the 2 years? The 5th seems a little light. For CHI, its not a bad move obtaining the picks, the prospect would be negotiable but the 3rd team retaining is imperative as we likely wouldn't want TJ taking up a retention slot.

CHI would retain 2.5 and ARZ would retain 1.25. In my mind, the 2nd + "7th" is to take Mrazek, and then Joey Anderson + "moving up 2 rounds to the 5th" is to retain on Tyler Johnson's deal. The prospect is probably negotiable, Toronto won't give up any of their top tier prospects in a deal like this, but someone like Mikhail Abramov or SDA would be available instead of Anderson, both younger with probably a higher upside.

Panthers instantly decline lol. Bob at 5M has positive value, not giving up a good prospect and a high pick to retain 20 million on a good starting goalie.

If you read my explanation, does Bob really have positive value? Of course you could be right, but I'm not a GM and neither are you so we can only really speculate right? In my mind, Bob is still a negative asset for these reasons:

#1 He has a full NMC, you're not shipping him to a team unless he wants to go. That alone loses you tons of leverage, you realistically have a small handful of teams that he would willingly leave Florida for. You can't just dump him to ARZ, it has to be a team that is ready to win, in a city he likes more than FLA or enough to uproot his life, and an organization that will stand behind him.

#2 You're retaining 20 million, but you're also getting rid of 20 million. How bad do you want to get rid of him? Teams aren't lining up to help FLA re-sign their star players and depth for another playoff run. You're the team that needs to stay competitive because you've spent all your picks and have no money to do so. Toronto can go after John Gibson, Kuemper, Husso, Stolarz, Holtby, Jack Campbell in FA/Trade, as do all these other teams that need a goalie. Florida? You have 3 mill in cap with multiple big free agents this year with both Weegar and Huberdeau asking for a max next season. That's an additional 8 - 10 mill you need to find for next season. Teams know Florida has their back against the wall, they can clear Hornqvist but that's not going to be enough to bring back Chiarot, Giroux not to mention Spencer Knight will want a raise as well next year (Carter Hart contract?)

So while I agree with you, that Florida totally could find a team that needs a goalie badly (like Toronto) and get value for him, I think that while Toronto and other teams looking for Goalies are willing to wait, Florida doesn't. (That's why I have this tade happening last) Imagine this offseason is coming to a close, all these teams have a goalie now that they've convinced themselves they're comfortable going into the season with, and FLA still hasn't moved Bobrovsky. Then you simply just might not be able to move him, because teams with cap that can afford him are usually bad so he won't waive his NMC, and good teams that might want him, already addressed goalie and probably don't have the cap to take him. If you swallow his contract this year and wait for next year, then there will be a definite cost next offseason to move him because now teams see you need to trade him to bring back Huberdeau and Weegar.

It really depends how the goalie market plays out, I have an idea of how I think it will turn out, and it's different from yours. I don't think you're wrong just like idk I'm right, but I think it'll be interesting to see how Florida deals with his contract. If Bob didn't have a NMC, I'd actually be inclined to agree that you could get assets for him but with that NMC... idk. I'm just not sure.

Could become messy for us when looking to retain Kane and Toews plus any moves we may look to make at the TDL. The slot becomes more valuable for us when we take all that on board. Not saying this is bad in value, we would just need to be aware of what the plans are moving forward and have a couple of contingencies in place. I wouldn't be quick to pull the trigger on a TJ move where we retain due to this.

I didn't think about that to be honest when I was first making these trades. I think it depends on what deals you get done this offseason with guys like Debrincat, Strome, and Kubalik. I think if you move on from those guys in moves or sign and trades in the offseason that the Tyler Johnson deal would still be viable right? But if you for example, still have DeBrincat, Toews and Kane at the deadline, you'd want all 3 of those retention slots for those 3 guys to maximize the value you can get for them.

I just really need someone to take Mrazek at this point so I'd do this trade without Tyler Johnson tbh LOLLLLLLL

TBH, we probably take Mrazek for a 2nd + prospect. Could probably get Strome's rights (if you want/need) at a reasonable price depending on how many teams are looking at him

Honestly, if we somehow got Strome in a sign and trade from you guys on like a cheaper contract (say around what I have us paying Evan Rodrigues, like that 2.5 - 3 mill year on decent term like 3+ years), I'd honestly give up a guy like Dmitri Ovichinnikov to you guys who I rate super highly as a prospect. I don't know if Strome would cap his value like that tho, I feel like he could probably get more in FA, esp since he had like nearly 50 points last year. It sucks being a fan of team under a cap crunch, honestly just makes things so difficult. Also do you got discord lol, I'm in a server with a ton of pretty hardcore hockey fans if you wanna join.

Sorry had to head out so didn't get the invite. I do have discord but yeah I feel Stromer would a bigger clip in FA. I also know the pain your going through, we had to give up some good assets to save on cap over the years but we did win 3 cups so can't complain really.

Ayo bet, join Tundra Cabin on discord lol. I think you can find us on Disboard. If you search hockey we should be the 8th or 9th server on there. And yeah y’all were elite during that stretch, I’m hella jealous of those teams 😭