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Created by: nich26
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 6, 2022
Published: Jul. 6, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$7,875,000
2$2,800,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Wright, Shane
3$950,000
Trades
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3.
MTL
  1. 2022 1st round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
4.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
WPG
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Mysak, Jan
  3. 2022 1st round pick (NYI)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$82,500,000$67,611,665$1,132,500$2,527,500$14,888,335
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$2,800,000$2,800,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 8
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 3
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RW
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
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$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$507,500$508K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 2

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Jul. 6, 2022 at 9:21 a.m.
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The Jets aren't moving Dubois for a late first and nothing else of any real value They'd get actual useful, far better, assets at the TDL in 2 years.
Jul. 6, 2022 at 9:35 a.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
The Jets aren't moving Dubois for a late first and nothing else of any real value They'd get actual useful, far better, assets at the TDL in 2 years.


Oh really. You think they'll have better control in a trade when teams know for a fact that he won't be resigning in Winnipeg?! That's hilarious. He has most value RIGHT NOW. Every day the Jets wait they lose more and more value in him contract wise.
Jul. 6, 2022 at 10:09 a.m.
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Oh really. You think they'll have better control in a trade when teams know for a fact that he won't be resigning in Winnipeg?! That's hilarious. He has most value RIGHT NOW. Every day the Jets wait they lose more and more value in him contract wise.


It sounds like you don't understand how the RFA system works in the NHL. Winnipeg owns his rights for the next 2 seasons.

At the TDL in two years, Dubois would get the standard TDL rental price of a 1st and a good prospect minimum. Which is far, far better than this offer.

The next 2 years of Dubois is worth more than the entire careers of Mysak and Dvorak put together. So, if the Jets easily get more next summer or at the TDL in 2 years, what is the incentive for Winnipeg trade him for garbage now?
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Jul. 6, 2022 at 10:11 a.m.
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The Jets aren't moving Dubois for a late first and nothing else of any real value They'd get actual useful, far better, assets at the TDL in 2 years.


13 OA isnt a late pick... Dvorak was traded for a late 1st and a 2nd, he still has value

Considering Fiala was traded for the 19 oa, it pretty much is Dubois value atm
Jul. 6, 2022 at 10:21 a.m.
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I say we keep JAnderson if we are getting rid of hoffman, petry, and dvorak
Jul. 6, 2022 at 10:26 a.m.
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13 OA isnt a late pick... Dvorak was traded for a late 1st and a 2nd, he still has value

Considering Fiala was traded for the 19 oa, it pretty much is Dubois value atm


Dvorak has minimal value, maybe a 3rd or a 2nd tops from a desperate team. Montreal drastically overpaying for him doesn't make him more valuable.

No one is giving up a 1st for Anderson, never mind 13OA.

Fiala isn't a good comparable at all. Fiala is a less valuable winger while Dubois is a more valuable center. Plus the main difference, Minnesota was forced into trading Fiala due to cap mismanagement, while the Jets have no pressure or need at all to trade Dubois for another 2 years.

Their situations aren't even slightly comparable.
Jul. 6, 2022 at 10:39 a.m.
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explain to me why the Isles would give up 13OA for Josh Anderson and his 5x$5.5M when he doesn't fit any of their immediate offseason needs (left handed D, scoring winger)
Jul. 6, 2022 at 10:48 a.m.
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13 OA isnt a late pick... Dvorak was traded for a late 1st and a 2nd, he still has value

Considering Fiala was traded for the 19 oa, it pretty much is Dubois value atm


The 13 OA belongs to the isles, which will also not be traded
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Jul. 7, 2022 at 11:41 a.m.
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It sounds like you don't understand how the RFA system works in the NHL. Winnipeg owns his rights for the next 2 seasons.

At the TDL in two years, Dubois would get the standard TDL rental price of a 1st and a good prospect minimum. Which is far, far better than this offer.

The next 2 years of Dubois is worth more than the entire careers of Mysak and Dvorak put together. So, if the Jets easily get more next summer or at the TDL in 2 years, what is the incentive for Winnipeg trade him for garbage now?


Yes. He has 2 years of RFA left. So after 2 years he's UFA. He stated he won't be signing with Winnipeg for his UFA years and will be leaving after Winnipeg loses contract control.

Therefore, Winnipeg has 2 RFA years of value to manage. The longer they wait as he approaches UFA, the more value the Jets lose. He's a depreciating asset. They are set to lose his services for nothing. Teams know this.

Thanks for your strong effort though. Appreciated.
Jul. 7, 2022 at 12:17 p.m.
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Yes. He has 2 years of RFA left. So after 2 years he's UFA. He stated he won't be signing with Winnipeg for his UFA years and will be leaving after Winnipeg loses contract control.

Therefore, Winnipeg has 2 RFA years of value to manage. The longer they wait as he approaches UFA, the more value the Jets lose. He's a depreciating asset. They are set to lose his services for nothing. Teams know this.

Thanks for your strong effort though. Appreciated.


Ah, I see, you don't understand the situation and have taken you own assumptions as fact.

Dubois had not ever said he won't sign in Winnipeg for his UFA years, he's only said he wants to test UFA.

There is almost no chance the Jets lose Dubois for nothing, as it is unlikely Winnipeg uses him as an own rental in two years. They can easily move him next summer or the TDL after that and easily get far more than this offer.

His bare minimum price is a 1st and a good prospec. at the TDL in two seasons. So, if teams want the additional 2 years of control before that they will need to ante up and meet Chevy's price. GM's know this and understand Winnipeg has all the control on if, where and when Winnipeg trades Dubois.

Lowball offers don't stand a chance of being considered.
Jul. 7, 2022 at 12:31 p.m.
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Ah, I see, you don't understand the situation and have taken you own assumptions as fact.

Dubois had not ever said he won't sign in Winnipeg for his UFA years, he's only said he wants to test UFA.

There is almost no chance the Jets lose Dubois for nothing, as it is unlikely Winnipeg uses him as an own rental in two years. They can easily move him next summer or the TDL after that and easily get far more than this offer.

His bare minimum price is a 1st and a good prospec. at the TDL in two seasons. So, if teams want the additional 2 years of control before that they will need to ante up and meet Chevy's price. GM's know this and understand Winnipeg has all the control on if, where and when Winnipeg trades Dubois.

Lowball offers don't stand a chance of being considered.


Lol You fail to comprehend my point, in trying to justify your supurb knowledge.

Im not defending this trade.

Im simply stating that the longer the Jets wait, the less value they retain in a trade.

PDL will not be in Winnipeg long term, because it's Winnipeg. Period.

Enjoy your ego bathe.
 
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