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Created by: Green4D4

Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 7, 2022

Published: Jul. 7, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

No confidence in moving out from the rebuild.

Before even consider trading a 7th overall pick to shed 2 years of salary, consider the implications and all the options????

BUY HIM OUT. Take the dead cap for 4 years instead of losing you're only leverage to ACTUALLY improve the team. You have 25-30 million in un-used cap space next year.

My other fear, they really like a guy that's ranked way lower then where their pick is (McGroaty, Geekie). If they go off the board two years in a row... man... I'll be super angry 2 years from now.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Formenton, Alex	3	$3,000,000
Joseph, Mathieu	2	$1,875,000
Norris, Joshua	6	$7,535,119

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Giroux, Claude		3	$6,750,000

Trades

OTT

Chychrun, Jakob

ARI

Brännström, Erik [RFA Rights]
Thomson, Lassi
2023 2nd round pick (OTT)

Additional Details:

2022 1st round pick (OTT) [7th overall]

OTT

Future considerations.

BUF

Zaitsev, Nikita
2023 3rd round pick (OTT)

Additional Details:

2022 2nd round pick (OTT) [39th overall]

Buyouts

Bobby Ryan: $1,833,333
Colin White: $875,000
Dion Phaneuf: $354,167
Matt Murray: $1,750,000

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,500,000	$71,250,000	$0	$4,025,000	$11,250,000

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tkachuk, Brady $8,205,714$8,205,714 LW UFA - 6	Norris, Joshua $7,535,119$7,535,119 C UFA - 8	Batherson, Drake $4,975,000$4,975,000 RW, LW UFA - 5
Formenton, Alex $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW RFA	Stützle, Tim $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 1	Giroux, Claude $6,750,000$6,750,000 RW, C UFA - 3
Joseph, Mathieu $1,875,000$1,875,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Pinto, Shane $925,000$925,000 ($600,000$600K) C RFA - 1	Brown, Connor $3,600,000$3,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Kelly, Parker $762,500$762,500 LW RFA - 2	Kastelic, Mark $821,667$821,667 C, RW RFA - 1	Watson, Austin $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 6	Chychrun, Jakob $4,600,000$4,600,000 LD/RD UFA - 3	Forsberg, Anton $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 3
Sanderson, Jake $925,000$925,000 ($925,000$925K) LD UFA - 2	Zub, Artem $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 1	Gustavsson, Filip $787,500$787,500 G UFA - 1
Holden, Nick $1,300,000$1,300,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Hamonic, Travis $3,000,000$3,000,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Del Zotto, Michael $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 1
Gambrell, Dylan $950,000$950,000 C UFA - 1

Jul. 7, 2022 at 2:01 p.m.

Alfie11

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he got too confident when his off the board jarventie pick turned out… okay I guess. There’s a reason there’s a board lol. Sometimes you’re the smartest one in the room, but most of the time the rest of the world is right, especially in the top 10, as anyone that could realistically go in that range gets scouted to death

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Jul. 7, 2022 at 2:03 p.m.

OMGKenny666

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Ya, he needs to go. I held out hope that it was Eugene's interference that was handicapping PDs ability to improve the team, but it's pretty obvious he just isn't an NHL GM

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Jul. 7, 2022 at 2:04 p.m.

Sabresguy1987

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Coming from a team with a cheap owner sometimes the owner steps in the way of certain moves like a buy out. Unfortunate but I feel your pain

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Jul. 7, 2022 at 2:06 p.m.

Andy_Dick

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The draft is garbage when there's 5-6 legit prospects. This shows all you need to know about the confidence in teams picking outside the top5. Lists are all over the map

Jul. 7, 2022 at 2:22 p.m.

zizougaffar

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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great

The draft is garbage when there's 5-6 legit prospects. This shows all you need to know about the confidence in teams picking outside the top5. Lists are all over the map

I mean the 1OA pick is all over the map, but you sstill have to value the 7OA pick very highly, not use it to shed 2 years of salary that YOU WERE GOING TO RETAIN ALREADY, like if it was for Buffalo's 9th, I would be like ok not bad, but this was for the 16thOA, a 9 position shift

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Jul. 7, 2022 at 2:35 p.m.

Andy_Dick

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Quoting: zizougaffar

Who is a cant miss at 7 OA? Lekkerimaki (Zadina lite) Savoie (5'9" center) when there are 5 in the league at that frame and effective.

Its not a worthwhile draft to be picking in that 7th-10th range. Ottawa was always better off trading the pick to meet their window not wait on a maybe in 3-4 years.

Jul. 7, 2022 at 2:35 p.m.

Green4D4

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Quoting: Sabresguy1987

Coming from a team with a cheap owner sometimes the owner steps in the way of certain moves like a buy out. Unfortunate but I feel your pain

The other owner's been dead for several months and the daughters/board of governors/estate seem to be doing a better job of marketing the team properly along with negotiating a new rink. My issues stem from the GM side of things when it comes to asset management.

Jul. 7, 2022 at 2:35 p.m.

Green4D4

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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great

Joakim Kemell.

Jul. 7, 2022 at 2:36 p.m.

Green4D4

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Quoting: Alfie11

Off the board pick over JJ Perteka who tore it up in the AHL. Also best friend of TIm Stutzle?

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Jul. 7, 2022 at 2:36 p.m.

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Green4D4

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Quoting: OMGKenny666

Ya, he needs to go. I held out hope that it was Eugene's interference that was handicapping PDs ability to improve the team, but it's pretty obvious he just isn't an NHL GM

Really good amateur scout. Terrible pro scout.

Jul. 7, 2022 at 2:39 p.m.

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Andy_Dick

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Quoting: Green4D4

Joakim Kemell.

I like him but we'll see. I think trading up in this draft is a fools errand. So many prospects have dropped like Lambert from top 5 to maybe 2nd round. Korchinski came outta nowhere from a b prospect to a top10 pick.

It aint a great draft by any stretch

Jul. 7, 2022 at 2:41 p.m.

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Green4D4

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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great

I agree with that. The draft isn't deep by any stretch but it's a waste of a cost controlled asset to trade it shed salary.

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Jul. 7, 2022 at 2:43 p.m.

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zizougaffar

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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great

I mean Savoie may be a center, but I think he would be a winger in the league, and there are lot's of great short wingers (Debrincat and Caufield are examples), Kemell is another one Gauthier has the potential to be great, but that potential has lots of risks

Jul. 7, 2022 at 2:43 p.m.

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Quoting: Green4D4

I agree with that. The draft isn't deep by any stretch but it's a waste of a cost controlled asset to trade it shed salary.

Yes, cost control, definitely, but you are banking on promise, little is guaranteed. Most of these GMs are too scared to trade a top10 when the odds are you'll get better value through trade. Most of team building is about timing and your cap window.

Jul. 7, 2022 at 2:44 p.m.

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Sabresguy1987

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Quoting: Green4D4

For sure I heard about that but I am sure the daughters are being advised on what to do as well right.

Jul. 7, 2022 at 2:47 p.m.

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Green4D4

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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great

It can also be viewed as a trading chip to actually improve the top 6 f or top4 d. You shoot yourself in the left foot whilst stapling your right hand if you package a top 10 pick to try and move a garbage contract when there are better options like saying you're confident in running 3 goalies only to bury him in the AHL or buying him out completely.

Jul. 7, 2022 at 9:18 p.m.

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Kemell still available at 17 lmao

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