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Dallas Stars signed Ben Bishop (6 Years / $4,916,666 AAV)

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May 12, 2017 at 11:29
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Ben Bishop has signed a new contract with the Dallas Stars.
STANDARD CONTRACT (EXTENSION)
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LENGTH: 6 YEARS
EXPIRY STATUS: UFA
SIGNING TEAM: Dallas StarsDallas Stars
VALUE: $29,500,000
C.H.% : 6.74
SIGNING DATE: May 12, 2017
SEASONCLAUSECAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY
2017-18NMC$4,916,666$4,916,666$0$3,000,000$4,000,000$7,000,000$7,000,000
2018-19NMC$4,916,666$4,916,666$0$3,000,000$3,500,000$6,500,000$6,500,000
2019-20NMC$4,916,666$4,916,666$0$3,000,000$2,500,000$5,500,000$5,500,000
2020-21Modified NTC, NMC$4,916,666$4,916,666$0$2,500,000$1,000,000$3,500,000$3,500,000
2021-22Modified NTC, NMC$4,916,666$4,916,666$0$1,000,000$2,500,000$3,500,000$3,500,000
2022-23Modified NTC, NMC$4,916,666$4,916,666$0$1,000,000$2,500,000$3,500,000$3,500,000
TOTAL$29,499,996$29,499,996$0$13,500,000$16,000,000$29,500,000$29,500,000
CLAUSE DETAILS: 2020-21 & 2021-22: Player submits a 10 team no trade list. - 2022-23: Player submits a 8 team no trade list.
CLAUSE SOURCE: CapFriendly
May 12, 2017 at 11:49
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That is quite the cap friendly deal, Stars finally have their clear starting goalie.
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May 12, 2017 at 12:12
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"cap friendly" I see what you did there.
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May 12, 2017 at 1:40
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Who gets bought out is the question. Or how much do the Stars pay to trade one of the bums.
Great signing though.
May 12, 2017 at 1:42
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"cap friendly" I see what you did there.


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May 12, 2017 at 10:29
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Quoting: Hockeyplayer1
Who gets bought out is the question. Or how much do the Stars pay to trade one of the bums.
Great signing though.


I'd go with Niemi to buyout, just based on the salary value as it would be less on the cap against for two years, but I don't think a buyout is in the works, even if you can get a sixth for either of them its worth that money, but I have a feeling the Stars will have to pay for someone to take a contract. I would have said Carolina, but they have a similar issue now carrying three expensive goalies. I would try to pawn off Niemi's contract to Jersey or Buffalo. I would say a third or a B level prospect would be sufficient as there is only one year left on his deal
May 15, 2017 at 12:02
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I dont know if I trust Bishop to stay healthy and earn almost 5 million for 6 years. I do think dallas needed to do this though.
May 15, 2017 at 4:26
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Bishop is easily a top 10 goalie and at this cap hit, its robbery for Dallas.
Jun 7, 2017 at 5:15
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Bishop is easily a top 10 goalie and at this cap hit, its robbery for Dallas.


top 10?

Price/Quick/Rinne/BOB/Anderson/Holtby/Hank/Dubnyk/Gibson/Rask/Cory Scheinder
Jun 11, 2017 at 2:24
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Quoting: Hockeyplayer1
Who gets bought out is the question. Or how much do the Stars pay to trade one of the bums.
Great signing though.


Let's talk about Niemi first. Based on his abhorrent contract, and above 3.00GAA this season in 37 games played. Now, the thing with Niemi is that if he was still in that good-old Niemi performance with the Sharks, that 4.6 mill wouldn't be horrible. But for a 3.30GAA and .892SV% in 37 games played, some of which he substituted Lehtonen and others he was pulled for a final seasonal record of 12-12-4 in full games played and finished, That 4.6 million dollars is just not worth it. Now, if we look at Lehtonen's stats:

Lehtonen has a 2.85GAA and a SV% of .902. Sounds decent for a backup goalie, right? He could play a couple 30-40 games for the team, right? Well then you have to look at HIS contract:
$6,000,000 for 2016-17, however granted that will be falling to $5,000,000 next year. Now, think about this logically. Ben Bishop is a capable starter goalie, and the Stars needed him badly. Lehtonen's contract is ending after next season. You may be thinking "But Niemi's contract is cheaper and also ending next season, right?" Indeed, but once again, return to stats. I don't think Lehtonen will be worth anywhere near what he's being paid next season, but neither will Niemi by a long shot. So, I'd personally buy out Niemi and keep Lehtonen around for 2017-18 and see if I can negotiate a better contract for next year. Another thing with Lehtonen too; if they wanted to trade him, he has a modified NTC that started in 2015-16. It's based on GP and if the team makes the playoffs, however depending on those conditions being met/unmet he can submit up to a 12 team list of teams he will refuse to be traded to, making him hard to trade. HOWEVER, Niemi also has a modified NTC granting him a 15-team list of teams he will refuse to be traded to, so that point isn't really a pro/con for either goalie. Niemi and Lehtonen would probably never be traded anyways; no teams want 'em.
 
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