Jake Muzzin for Dvorak final offer, both recently injured, both recently underperformed and both paid a little to much

Torontos going to have to move a 1st with Muzzin if they want him off the team

You trade for Pierre-Luc Dubois, but did not sign him?

How is dvorak overpaid? He was a 50 point pace elite faceoff centre who has only been injured once in the last 3 years. For less than 5 million its a steal.

There's simply no reason or enticement for Winnipeg to add to Dubois AND trade him for a lowball offer.

Cause he's none of those things, he's not an "elite" center he's a complimentary player and has been a 30-40 pt C his entire career

No they won't, there is very few top 4 D that carry a pair available via trade and none available in FA

Just wanted opinions on the trade

He's 26 lol you act like he's an old veteran

Actually he has never breached 40 pts and out of 6 seasons in the league has only breached 70 GP 3 times because he's been injured

He's 26, we know what he is, he is not developing, he is not a prospect he is however a barely under 5 million 3 C

Next season will determine if he is a 2C or 3C
Right now he is a low end 2C - high end 3C

You think so because as a jets fan I think it’s a solid offer they’re getting a top 4 RHD spec with size and skill, a high end 3rd line center (maybe even 2nd probably not though) a 1st and Montreals 2nd (which is going to be very high in the draft)

I think your trade is good but you don't have to add Stanley

Jets just have too much LHD Stanley’s just in there as a sweetener if you will

Next season will determine if he's a 2LW and regain his junoiur numbers playing with Marner or if he's pushed Kampf to 4 C while Muzzin babysits Savard in Montreal

Your trading Dubious no sweetener required

Stanley is bad so it’s not really a sweetener

Dvorak is one of the best guy on faceoffs and what are you saying with Dvorak with the Leafs

I'm saying the Leafs have a top 4 LHD (Montreal needs one) and the Habs have the underperformed overpaid Dvorak that can play at both wing and C it's a match made in heaven and a win for both teams

Mailloux has severe moral character issues so he's not likely interesting to True North at all and Dvorak is a highly overpaid marginal 3C.

The Jets would get a 1st and good prospect that they like and need at the TDL in 2 years. Dreger said Chevy is only listening on offers too good to ignore. This looks really easy to ignore.

PLD for 2 years + 1st + good prospect>>>>>>> this offer.

Montreal also has too many LHD lol. It's not really a sweetener for us.

They literally got like no LHD on their roster

Dvorak is a good mentor for Suzuki Dach Evans Poehling while Edmundson is a good mentor for Harris and Guhle
We're good here with Dvorak you can keep Muzzin

LOL Edmundson-Guhle-Harris is expected to be our starting LD this fall. Beyond that we have Xkeyaj and Schueneman who will be competing with Barron to be the 7th D man and Norlinder, Fairbrother, Struble, Leskinen, Engstrom, Trudeau, Hutson and Nurmi all as future options. With Norlinder, Hutson and Struble all potentially being ready for the 23-24 season. So as you can see we are full but the reason Guhle is not listed on the roster is because there isn't enough cap space currently.

Edit** right now our projected D will be

Edmundson-Petry
Guhle-Wideman
Harris-Savard
Schueneman

Because Hughes said he does not want more than 2 rookies on our D at a time. By the end of the year I would expect something like this

Guhle-Petry
Edmundson-Barron
Harris-Savard
Wideman