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Created by: EmilieCastonguay
Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 19, 2022
Published: Jul. 19, 2022
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1. COL/VAN: Summer Fwd market appears to be soft, so while VAN doesn't get the haul that was forecast at the '22 TDL, inclusion of Girard and a '23 1st (which is more like a 2nd) will meet the Canucks needs. Miller to COL solves their loss of Kadri, giving the team another solid crack at the Cup with a similar cap hit. Believe Miller would extend there as well at a reasonable number, given the team has a solid chance to win every year. Girard's movement out allows for Byram to move to the 2nd pairing alongside Manson. While Girard is a LS D in COL, he has shown ability to play the RS and as such could be paired with Hughes or OEL. I would pair him with OEL as the 'rover' allowing OEL to settle into more of a defensive role as opposed to a play driver and primary passer.

2. NJD/VAN: Garland for Severson: Severson is a UFA after '23 and with prospects like Nemec and Mukhamdullin in the pipeline, NJD would accept a cost-controlled and interchangeable FWD like Garland to play in their top-9. As he has shown in his career, he scores at a 1st line rate 5v5. With the addition of PP1 time, Garland could easily top 70 points and be a complementary player on a line with Hughes or Hischier.

3. ANA/VAN: ANA is WAY under the cap floor. ANA needs players to balance out their roster while they continue their rebuild. Myers solves that problem. VAN attaches the '24 2nd as a sweetener and ANA includes a '23 4th to make this deal match up with similar cap dump trades.

4. TOR/VAN: TOR Needs cap space. While not saving money in absolute dollars (b/c Jim Benning didn't insure the Ferland deal), Ferland's contract could be used in LTIR to allow the Leafs to exceed the cap i n'22-23 and round out their lineup by resigning their remaining RFA in Sandin. DiPietro gets a new lease on life back home as a sweetener in the deal. Kerfoot fills a need for the Canucks in a 3C role.

At end of day, does this make the Canucks better?

Defensively, yes.

Forwards are still a question mark, given the departure of their leading scorer from the past 2 seasons (Miller) and their best 5v5 player (Garland). These moves count on EP40 consistently delivering on his 1C role, heavily relies on Mikheyev and Kuzmenko living up to their promise, as well as continued progression from Podkolzin and a return to form from Boeser and Hoglander.

But having a true top-4 on the backend should help the team in transition from the defensive zone (a real eyesore and constant challenge during the entire Benning regime) into more rush chances. Is this a playoff team? Probably a bubble team but on paper looks way more balanced. And if the team is out of it by the '23 TDL, then they still have UFA assets that are a.) cheap and b.) attractive to contenders who want to put themselves over the top to get additional draft capital and/or prospects.
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VAN
  1. Girard, Samuel
  2. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
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VAN
  1. 2023 4th round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (VAN)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$77,005,833$1,250,000$2,000,000$5,494,167
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$7,350,000$7,350,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$6,650,000$6,650,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$4,125,000$4,125,000
C
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$891,667$891,667 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
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$825,000$825,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$2,650,000$2,650,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 4
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$7,260,000$7,260,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 5
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$762,500$762,500
G
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
LD
UFA - 2

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Jul. 19, 2022 at 11:41 a.m.
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Avs arent moving 5 years of Girard plus a 1st for 1 year of Miller
Jul. 19, 2022 at 11:49 a.m.
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We're not "WAY under the cap," we're less than $10 million from the floor with 6 slots to fill and Isac Lundestrom to be re-signed. That being said, we might well take Myers off your hands for our 2023 sixth.
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Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:02 p.m.
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Avs decline and I don't really like the Devils trade for a player who may not want to sign in Vancouver
Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:18 p.m.
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Myers isn't a cap dump
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Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:21 p.m.
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That's not how ltir cap works
Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:23 p.m.
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Quoting: majormoose007
Myers isn't a cap dump


Yeah - he is in this case. 2 years left on a deal ($6M AAV) that VAN doesn't want to (nor can really afford to) pay. He solves the ANA issue of needing to get to the floor. I would be ecstatic if VAN could get value for Myers, but honestly, that wouldn't happen unless a.) VAN retained money or b.) VAN waited until the '23 TDL or the '23-24 offseason (post-Sept 15) to move him along when his cap hit is $6M but his actual payment is $1M.
Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:27 p.m.
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Quoting: felixf21
That's not how ltir cap works


I believe there are two ways for LTIR to work; this would be the second way, where the team uses LTIR prior to starting the season.

"If a team cannot be cap compliant on opening day without using LTIR, the LTIR Pool is the amount the team exceeds the Cap. For example, if a team is $3M over the Cap and places a player on LTIR with a $4M Cap Hit for the opening roster submission, the LTIR Pool is the $3M that the team exceeded the cap". Basically the Leafs cannot accrue space during the season - they can only spend up to to amount they exceed the cap as an absolute amount. So - yeah - this works just fine.
Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:35 p.m.
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Avs decline and I don't really like the Devils trade for a player who may not want to sign in Vancouver


B/C of the inclusion of a late 1st or the term/value of Girard? They will have to extend Byram, who showed he can play top minutes for COL this past offseason. Sure, COL could try to move out EJ (and will likely try) but I feel they need to replace Kadri. Miller's extension is not going to be in the $8.5M x 7 range. Nobody is that crazy. Look at Kadri's situation - a player 2 years older who also scored at a high level (87 pts) in a contract year and teams didn't (or couldn't) cave to huge demands thus far. I think Miller is going to get a 5 year deal, probably in the $7M range, giving COL money to still resign MacKinnon, Newhook & Byram to market deals.
Jul. 19, 2022 at 1:10 p.m.
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Rathbone is on a one way so he would have to pass through waivers which he would not clear so he has to be on the roster essentially.
Jul. 19, 2022 at 2:11 p.m.
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Rathbone is on a one way so he would have to pass through waivers which he would not clear so he has to be on the roster essentially.


Rathbone is waiver exempt until '23-24.

Happy to shift him in instead of Burroughs.
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Jul. 19, 2022 at 2:12 p.m.
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Quoting: EmilieCastonguay
Rathbone is waiver exempt until '23-24.

Happy to shift him in instead of Burroughs.


thats great news then. I thought i read when he signed a one way that he wouldnt be waiver exempt.
Jul. 19, 2022 at 5:30 p.m.
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Quoting: EmilieCastonguay
B/C of the inclusion of a late 1st or the term/value of Girard? They will have to extend Byram, who showed he can play top minutes for COL this past offseason. Sure, COL could try to move out EJ (and will likely try) but I feel they need to replace Kadri. Miller's extension is not going to be in the $8.5M x 7 range. Nobody is that crazy. Look at Kadri's situation - a player 2 years older who also scored at a high level (87 pts) in a contract year and teams didn't (or couldn't) cave to huge demands thus far. I think Miller is going to get a 5 year deal, probably in the $7M range, giving COL money to still resign MacKinnon, Newhook & Byram to market deals.


It's not really the price, it's the uncertainty if Miller can put up close to 100 points next season. Also, who knows what will happen to Miller if he's injured, it lowers his value more.

I don't want a team that always gives up futures to be a fringe playoff team, but rather a long term contender
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