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Team: 2022-23 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 31, 2022
Published: Jul. 31, 2022
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  1. Necas, Martin [RFA Rights]
CAR
  1. Pettersson, Marcus
  2. Zohorna, Radim
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (PIT)
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23$82,500,000$77,260,417$0$0$5,239,583
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$842,500$842,500 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
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$789,167$789,167 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
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$863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0)
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
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Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:22 p.m.
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Quoting: spockrock
Nice rebuttal


Well, you work through this like it's as video game, so it's hard to have a conversation with someone like that.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:23 p.m.
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Right now you are over 80m with 21 players. Dump 2 add 1 leaves 20 and at the cap ceiling. Still got work to do.

Not impossible but not simple either.

Also the 10% offseason overage option. Need to fix by opening day though.


Getting Pac for nothing was a great get, but it's put them in a tough situation.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Getting Pac for nothing was a great get, but it's put them in a tough situation.


Truth

Kinda surprised they kept Bear around. Another trade candidate.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Well, you work through this like it's as video game, so it's hard to have a conversation with someone like that.


Why wouldn’t work exactly as a laid out? It’s not as if you need player permission to buy out a player or waive them. How is that not simple?

Don’t make up problems that can be easily solved.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:29 p.m.
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Quoting: spockrock
Why wouldn’t work exactly as a laid out? It’s not as if you need player permission to buy out a player or waive them. How is that not simple?

Don’t make up problems that can be easily solved.


Do you know the roster requirements?
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Do you know the roster requirements?


12 forwards, 6D and 2 goalies, 23 max.

Directly from NHL.com:

“Each Club must have a roster of at least 20 players, composed of 18 skaters and two goaltenders.”

You don’t have to carry more than 20. Doing exactly what I’ve described nets the Canes 3.595M in space, 11 F, 6D, 2 goalies and enough to sign the 12th F in Necas.

For a 3rd time, no chance the Canes deal
Necas for futures.

Is it ideal to only carry 20players, No. But it’s doable.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:36 p.m.
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Quoting: spockrock
12 forwards, 6D and 2 goalies, 23 max.

Directly from NHL.com:

“Each Club must have a roster of at least 20 players, composed of 18 skaters and two goaltenders.”

You don’t have to carry more than 20. Doing exactly what I’ve described nets the Canes 3.595M in space.

For a 3rd time, no chance the Canes deal
Necas for futures.

Is it ideal to only carry 20players, No. But it’s doable.


LOL

So what do you do when a player is injured and not on LTIR? Are you aware there are limits on emergency call-ups?
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:39 p.m.
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Quoting: spockrock
12 forwards, 6D and 2 goalies, 23 max.

Directly from NHL.com:

“Each Club must have a roster of at least 20 players, composed of 18 skaters and two goaltenders.”

You don’t have to carry more than 20. Doing exactly what I’ve described nets the Canes 3.595M in space, 11 F, 6D, 2 goalies and enough to sign the 12th F in Necas.

For a 3rd time, no chance the Canes deal
Necas for futures.

Is it ideal to only carry 20players, No. But it’s doable.


You also suggested sending THREE players down on a roster that is currently at 20.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:40 p.m.
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Emergency recall, ya dolt.

You may have to play 1 game short, but then you’re allowed some relief to be able to field a full roster.

For a 4th time, no chance they deal Necas for futures when they can finagle the cap to get the space they need to sign him.


You suggested sending THREE players down on currently a 20 player roster.

There are limitations on emergency call-ups.

I'm the dolt? I don't think so, bud.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
You suggested sending THREE players down on currently a 20 player roster.

There are limitations on emergency call-ups.

I'm the dolt? Or maybe you don't now what you're talking about?


Can you not count?

Gardiner is 1.

Coghlan OR Chatfield is 2.

Geez.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:42 p.m.
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Quoting: spockrock
Can you not count?

Gardiner is 1.

Coghlan OR Chatfield is 2.

Geez.


Oh no!!! It was two instead of three?!?!? So you're still sending down TWO players from a 20 man roster? You clearly don't know roster requirements. By doing this, you violate them.

Learn hockey.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:43 p.m.
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You suggested sending THREE players down on currently a 20 player roster.

There are limitations on emergency call-ups.

I'm the dolt? I don't think so, bud.


Oh, and for a 5th time, no chance they deal Necas for futures
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:43 p.m.
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Oh, and for a 5th time, no chance they deal Necas for futures


Wrong.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:46 p.m.
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Oh no!!! It was two instead of three?!?!? So you're still sending down TWO players from a 20 man roster? You clearly don't know roster requirements. By doing this, you violate them.

Learn hockey.


I’ll have to use a diagram for you I guess. Hopefully you can follow along:

Svechnikov-Aho-Jarvis
Pacioretty-Kotkaniemi-Necas @ $3.5M
Teravainen-Staal-Fast
Martinook-Drury-Kase

Slavin-Burns
Pesce-Bear
Skjei-Coghlan

Andersen
Raanta

There’s 20, cap compliant.

For a 6th time, no chance Necas is dealt for futures
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:47 p.m.
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Quoting: spockrock
I’ll have to use a diagram for you I guess. Hopefully you can follow along:

Svechnikov-Aho-Jarvis
Pacioretty-Kotkaniemi-Necas $3.5M
Teravainen-Staal-Fast
Martinook-Drury-Kase

Slavin-Burns
Pesce-Bear
Skjei-Coghlan

Andersen
Raanta

There’s 20, cap compliant.

For a 6th time, no chance Necas is dealt for futures


Wrong again. You're still not getting it. They're not going into the season with a 20 man roster.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:49 p.m.
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Wrong again. You're still not getting it.


You’re hopeless. It’s been spelled out for you.

Give up.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:50 p.m.
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Wrong again. You're still not getting it. They're not going into the season with a 20 man roster.


They’d do that before giving up Necas for futures.

I think that might be the 7th time…
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:51 p.m.
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You’re hopeless. It’s been spelled out for you.

Give up.


No, you're simply wrong. They are not going into the season with only 20 players. Just not happening.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:51 p.m.
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No, you're simply wrong. They are not going into the season with only 20 players. Just not happening.


For an 8th time, they would likely rather do that, to keep Necas, than trade him for futures.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:52 p.m.
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They’d do that before giving up Necas for futures.

I think that might be the 7th time…


You can tell me a hundred times, but that doesn't mean anything. YOU don't work for the Canes. You are not a Canes insider. You do not work for the NHL or any sports publication. You know NOTHING.

Sure, they may ultimately keep him or trade him as part of a bigger deal, but they will still need a larger roster to start the season and will have a lot of REAL work to make that happen. Not that nonsense you're suggesting. If they don't move him futures, it still won't mean it wasn't a possibility.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
You can tell me a hundred times, but that doesn't mean anything. YOU don't work for the Canes. You are not a Canes insider. You do not work for the NHL or any sports publication. You know NOTHING.

Sure, they may ultimately keep him or trade him as part of a bigger deal, but they will still need a larger roster to start the season and will have a lot of REAL work to make that happen. Not that nonsense you're suggesting.


Right, they’ll likely just buy out Gardiner, problem solved.

However, what you don’t get is that trading Necas for futures makes zero sense for them and they would very likely move heaven and earth to not have to do such. Point being, they don’t have to move heaven and earth or ever consider the ridiculous notion of trading Necas for futures, just start the season off with a skeleton crew.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:56 p.m.
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Right, they’ll likely just buy out Gardiner, problem solved.

However, what you don’t get is that trading Necas for futures makes zero sense for them and they would very likely move heaven and earth to not have to do such. Point being, they don’t have to move heaven and earth, just start the season off with a skeleton crew.


This explanation is not based in any sense of reality. It's passed your bed time, little boy.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:57 p.m.
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This explanation is not based in any sense of reality. It's passed your bed time, little boy.


Might have to leave an LoL here.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:58 p.m.
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Damn you’re ****ing stupid. Their current roster has 11F, 7D, and 2G. Gardiner is still technically on LTIR. So guess what happens when gards comes off the LTIR? 21 man roster. What happens when they send him down or buy him out? 20 man roster and guess what? A whole new sum of money to resign necas. You are the classic “I know your teams situation better than you do”. Nobody likes that guy and you are just looking like a dunce.


Reason doesn’t sit well with this one
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:58 p.m.
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Damn you’re ****ing stupid. Their current roster has 11F, 7D, and 2G. Gardiner is still technically on LTIR. So guess what happens when gards comes off the LTIR? 21 man roster. What happens when they send him down or buy him out? 20 man roster and guess what? A whole new sum of money to resign necas. You are the classic “I know your teams situation better than you do”. Nobody likes that guy and you are just looking like a dunce.


No, you just don't understand the reality of how things work in the NHL. Go back to playing video games.
 
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