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Team: 2022-23 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 31, 2022
Published: Jul. 31, 2022
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Free Agent Signings
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1$3,500,000
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  1. Necas, Martin [RFA Rights]
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  1. Pettersson, Marcus
  2. Zohorna, Radim
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (PIT)
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Taxi Squad
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
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$842,500$842,500 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
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$789,167$789,167 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
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$863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0)
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Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:59 p.m.
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Quoting: spockrock
Reason doesn’t sit well with this one


Reality doesn't sit well with either of you.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Reality doesn't sit well with either of you.


Sick burn, please hit me with another after having been bested.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:02 p.m.
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No, you just don't understand the reality of how things work in the NHL. Go back to playing video games.


And you do? You have NHL experience? You have worked with teams? Please give me a LinkedIn I can check if you actually have experience there.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Cardiac
Insiders have literally reported that the canes aren’t shopping necas for futures. And oh Don Waddell said they are in win now mode? Why trade a young forward who had a bad season and is a huge bounce back candidate? Selling low on a player is not something the canes do. Piss off bud.


That was all before they decided to trade for Pac without sending any salary out, bud. Things have changed. Again, they may ultimately find a way to keep him, but they're not starting the season with only 20 players and not solving with the nonsense your buddy has been suggesting.

If they have to walk the cap line, they can't trade him for a good roster player. Just logic. Buying out Gardiner and signing Necas is possible, but they will still need to ADD.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:03 p.m.
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Sick burn, please hit me with another after having been bested.


It's all good. You'll enjoy your ban for previous insults.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:04 p.m.
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It's all good. You'll enjoy your band for previous insults.


Can’t wait to enjoy my “band”
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Cardiac
And you do? You have NHL experience? You have worked with teams? Please give me a LinkedIn I can check if you actually have experience there.


Teams don't go in with 20 man rosters. Just doesn't happen. You don't have to be an expert. Just normal run of the mill knowledge that neither of you understand.

They have $1.8M in space. If they move Necas, you're not getting anyone of quality in return who's hit is $1.8M, so futures make far more sense.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:05 p.m.
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Can’t wait to enjoy my “band”


Yup, you got me on a typo. You're the man.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:05 p.m.
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Yup, you got me on a typo. You're the man.


Finally, some sense.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
That was all before they decided to trade for Pac without sending any salary out, bud. Things have changed. Again, they may ultimately find a way to keep him, but they're not starting the season with only 20 players and not solving with the nonsense your buddy has been suggesting.

If they have to walk the cap line, they can't trade him for a good roster player. Just logic. Buying out Gardiner and signing Necas is possible, but they will still need to ADD.


Not really that hard in their current situation. They would have 1.8 with gards in the lineup and a 23 man roster. It’s honestly not too difficult for them to fix this. A little suggestion, open up an ACGM for Carolina and try every single suggested option. You will see every single one works. And on a final note, Waddell is still adamant on resigning necas, he has been adamant after the pacioretty addition. Again, the only way that the canes trade necas is for a piece to improve their current core. If Pittsburgh wants to do that they have to give up the best player in a deal.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Teams don't go in with 20 man rosters. Just doesn't happen. You don't have to be an expert. Just normal run of the mill knowledge that neither of you understand.

They have $1.8M in space. If they move Necas, you're not getting anyone of quality in return who's hit is $1.8M, so futures make far more sense.


Just last year…

Vegas did this
Tampa did this
Canes did this

Not ideal, but can and does happen.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:09 p.m.
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Not really that hard in their current situation. They would have 1.8 with gards in the lineup and a 23 man roster. It’s honestly not too difficult for them to fix this. A little suggestion, open up an ACGM for Carolina and try every single suggested option. You will see every single one works. And on a final note, Waddell is still adamant on resigning necas, he has been adamant after the pacioretty addition. Again, the only way that the canes trade necas is for a piece to improve their current core. If Pittsburgh wants to do that they have to give up the best player in a deal.


You realize your argument just folded on itself, right?
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:09 p.m.
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Quoting: spockrock
Just last year…

Vegas did this
Tampa did this
Canes did this

Not ideal, but can and does happen.


Last year we had the taxi squad to start the season. Try again.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Teams don't go in with 20 man rosters. Just doesn't happen. You don't have to be an expert. Just normal run of the mill knowledge that neither of you understand.

They have $1.8M in space. If they move Necas, you're not getting anyone of quality in return who's hit is $1.8M, so futures make far more sense.


Just because teams don’t typically do it doesn’t mean it has never been done. It’s literally just going against the norm. Teams do it all the time. If you did some research you would see.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:11 p.m.
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Just because teams don’t typically do it doesn’t mean it has never been done. It’s literally just going against the norm. Teams do it all the time. If you did some research you would see.


No, they don't do it all the time. Like you homeroom buddy failed to miss, is the last few years we had the taxi squad. It didn't go away until halfway through the season last year.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
You realize your argument just folded on itself, right?


How so? I said what I said. It’s not nearly as hard as you make it out to be. Please just stop your arguments. We aren’t going to agree with you and you aren’t going to agree with us. Just stop and move on. We don’t know what will happen but as canes fans, we can bet that necas is either coming back or is being traded for somebody better. If you disagree, that’s fine, don’t invalidate our arguments though. You honestly just don’t look good here with the “I know your team better” argument. I’m not saying what the pens will and won’t do because it’s not my place here. Please for the love of god just agree to disagree.
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Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:16 p.m.
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Last year we had the taxi squad. Try again.


Uhmmm…only for a short time after Omicron, not all year Mr. CBA scholar.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:16 p.m.
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How so? I said what I said. It’s not nearly as hard as you make it out to be. Please just stop your arguments. We aren’t going to agree with you and you aren’t going to agree with us. Just stop and move on. We don’t know what will happen but as canes fans, we can bet that necas is either coming back or is being traded for somebody better. If you disagree, that’s fine, don’t invalidate our arguments though. You honestly just don’t look good here with the “I know your team better” argument. I’m not saying what the pens will and won’t do because it’s not my place here. Please for the love of god just agree to disagree.


You're trying to give me rules on a discussion when all you've done is literally shoot insults my way?
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:16 p.m.
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Uhmmm…only for a short time after Omicron, not all year Mr. CBA scholar.


Well, that's after the beginning of the season now isn't it? It wasn't until the new year they removed it.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:17 p.m.
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Well, that's after the beginning of the season now isn't it? It wasn't until the new year they removed it.


Lovely how those goalposts move
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:18 p.m.
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Lovely how those goalposts move


Weird response after being proven wrong.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:25 p.m.
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This certainly is an interesting discussion…This will all be sorted when Montreal screws everything up and offer sheets Necas for 5 years at 3.75m. Canes match, bury or trade Gardiner and all is good.

Oh, and that trade is terrible. They already have a problem with their 3rd pairing LHD, no clue why they’d trade Necas and not actually address the problem with a good player.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:27 p.m.
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Weird response after being proven wrong.


Funny you think you proven anything other than stubbornness.

Your argument is that because there was a taxi squad for a
few weeks you can explain why multiple teams went down to 20 men? That’s pretty weak.

It’s some what embarrassing to say, but the Canes have quite often gone with 20 throughout the season, mostly in the dark years as they were just cheap. It’s obvious you are clueless about how and why the Canes front office does things.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
You're trying to give me rules on a discussion when all you've done is literally shoot insults my way?


Because you have been throwing insults at a fan of my team. You clearly don’t understand how the 20 man roster works. 2017, a time before the taxi squad, the lightning and the flames started the season with 20 man rosters. Again, don’t tell us about our team and we won’t tell you about yours. Agree to disagree
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Cardiac
Because you have been throwing insults at a fan of my team. You clearly don’t understand how the 20 man roster works. 2017, a time before the taxi squad, the lightning and the flames started the season with 20 man rosters. Again, don’t tell us about our team and we won’t tell you about yours. Agree to disagree


Actually I didn't insult him. He, like you, started calling me names and slinging insults. Mind you, I do understand how the 20 man roster works and great, you found a couple of examples. It doesn't change the fact that teams rarely ever ever do that. It's not even close to common.
 
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