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This is gonna be rough with Mack at 13

Created by: csick
Team: 2023-24 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 9, 2022
Published: Aug. 9, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,500,000
1$900,000
1$900,000
1$900,000
1$800,000
2$3,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$13,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Cheap, UFA
1$1,000,000
Cheap, UFA
1$1,000,000
Cheap, UFA
1$1,000,000
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    22$83,500,000$82,312,500$637,500$0$1,187,500
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    LW, C
    NMC
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    $13,000,000$13,000,000
    C
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    $6,125,000$6,125,000
    RW, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 7
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    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
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    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 4
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    $9,250,000$9,250,000
    RW, C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    $900,000$900,000
    LW
    RFA
    Cheap, UFA
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
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    $1,050,000$1,050,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
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    $900,000$900,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
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    $800,000$800,000
    RW
    RFA
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    $900,000$900,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    LD
    UFA - 1
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    $9,000,000$9,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 4
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    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Cheap, UFA
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    Cheap, UFA
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    $987,500$987,500
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    Aug. 9, 2022 at 11:31 a.m.
    #26
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    Quoting: csick
    Crosby took 8 mill like what 6 years ago?


    Yeah, MacKinnon thinks he took a discount because he wanted 1C money like guys like Stamkos and O'Reilly, Crosby could have gotten more than 8.7 but he's the most superstitious guy in the League. He's not really the comparable of what MacKinnon thought he was worth, btw he got signed before he broke out and he was getting criticism for not being good enough. My guess is that he wanted 7m+ but had to settle for 6.3 and since players didn't sign for 5-6 years to get another big payday he ebded up outplaying that contract by a ton as the market shifted. Pastrnak is also getting paid in the 6s, more than him but he was better.
    Aug. 9, 2022 at 11:40 a.m.
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    Quoting: mondo
    14.5% of the cap on signing is not a discount.


    He went from 17.3% the first time he signed 8.7 in 2008. Ovechkin had an 18%+ in 2008. Malkin signed a 15.43% or something like that in 2010. So, comparing him with the other top 3, guys, and his previous contract, he could have gotten more if he cared about % of cap rather than 8.7 aav.
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    Aug. 9, 2022 at 11:41 a.m.
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    Quoting: GMBL
    He went from 17.3% the first time he signed 8.7 in 2008. Ovechkin had an 18%+ in 2008. Malkin signed a 15.43% or something like that in 2010. So, comparing him with the other top 3, guys, and his previous contract, he could have gotten more if he cared about % of cap rather than 8.7 aav.


    Going from McDavid money to Matthews money is a discount. Got it.
    Aug. 9, 2022 at 11:41 a.m.
    #29
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    Quoting: coga16
    Dater is just being Dater, trying to save his failing business with clickbait. The guy doesnt even follow the avs anymore, he lost his credentials bc of the question the previous offseason that pissed of Mackinnon. Dater is the lsat person to have any inside source info on mackinnon, the guy legit hates dater. He clowned on him in an interview before


    Haha! I feel the same way about Dater. He's someone who doesn't understand personal accountability and is always trying to cover up his checkered past. His "pay-wall" site is garbage, full of grammatical and spelling errors.
    Aug. 9, 2022 at 11:45 a.m.
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    Quoting: mondo
    When he signed it, it was worth 14.5% of the cap which is comparable with what Matthews was.

    The cap just went up. Also he's a top 10 hockey player of all time, not much of a gamble.


    I guess with LTIR if injuries took over it could be seen as less risky. A lot of money to pay if they fell apart. Though Crosby is special.
    Aug. 9, 2022 at 11:49 a.m.
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    Quoting: KyBull
    Haha! I feel the same way about Dater. He's someone who doesn't understand personal accountability and is always trying to cover up his checkered past. His "pay-wall" site is garbage, full of grammatical and spelling errors.


    and the hockeynow guys piggy back off one another...the detroit guys are using that article of his to say that could moritz seider andLucas Raymond eclipse macks new deal.
    they make non articles off of non articles to populate their websites
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    Aug. 9, 2022 at 11:49 a.m.
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    Quoting: mondo
    Going from McDavid money to Matthews money is a discount. Got it.


    Leaving money on the table is a discount.He took a lower % of the cap and a lower AAV than he COULD have which is why Malkin had a higher AAV than Crosby after getting paid the same amount. There's no two ways about it, just because he's rich doesn't mean he couldn't have been richer without being overpaid mind you since neither Malkin or Ovechkin were overpaid and Crosby is just as good if you don't believe that he was the best.

    Silver lining is that Crosby could potentially become the highest paid 40+ year old if he is still good and the Pens remain loyal, since he can probably get 8.7mx1 until he retires. So maybe until age 43 if he can pull it off like Jumbo Joe (although he was bad after age 40).
     
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