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Created by: EmilieCastonguay

Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 10, 2022

Published: Aug. 12, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

1.) DAL-VAN: Dickinson goes home to DAL essentially as future considerations. DAL generously gives a '23 6th for the acquisition of Mike DiPietro.

2.) PHI-VAN: The trade is really JT Miller (50% retained) for Attard (future RHD) and Frost ('23-24 3rd line C). VAN offers to take on Van Riemsdyk so PHI includes their '23 1st. Because it is Chuck Fletcher, it will be unprotected. Also because it is Chuck Fletcher, he will extend Miller to the leaked Kadri deal (7 x $7.25M).

3.) OTT-VAN: Garland goes to OTT for Jacob Bernard-Docker, Austin Watson and a '23 2nd. VAN sends Poolman along with '23 and '24 4ths as sweeteners for taking on the next 2 seasons at $2.5M

Trades

VAN

2023 6th round pick (DAL)

DAL

VAN

Bernard-Docker, Jacob
Watson, Austin
2023 2nd round pick (OTT)

OTT

Garland, Conor
Poolman, Tucker
2023 4th round pick (VAN)
2024 4th round pick (VAN)

VAN

PHI

Miller, J.T. ($2,625,000 retained)

Buyouts

Braden Holtby: $1,900,000
Jake Virtanen: $500,000

Retained Salary Transactions

J.T. Miller: $2,625,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$78,172,917	$1,250,000	$3,275,000	$4,327,083

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Mikheyev, Ilya $4,750,000$4,750,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 4	Pettersson, Elias $7,350,000$7,350,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Boeser, Brock $6,650,000$6,650,000 RW UFA - 3
Podkolzin, Vasily $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 2	Horvat, Bo $4,125,000$4,125,000 C UFA - 1	van Riemsdyk, James $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Kuzmenko, Andrei $950,000$950,000 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Frost, Morgan $800,000$800,000 C RFA - 1	Höglander, Nils $891,667$891,667 ($300,000$300K) LW, RW RFA - 1
	Joshua, Dakota $825,000$825,000 LW UFA - 2	Lazar, Curtis $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, C UFA - 3
Pearson, Tanner $3,250,000$3,250,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hughes, Quinn $7,850,000$7,850,000 LD UFA - 5	Attard, Ronnie $883,750$883,750 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 1	Demko, Thatcher $5,000,000$5,000,000 G UFA - 4
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver $7,260,000$7,260,000 LD NMC UFA - 5	Myers, Tyler $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Martin, Spencer $762,500$762,500 G UFA - 2
Dermott, Travis $1,500,000$1,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Bernard-Docker, Jacob $925,000$925,000 ($425,000$425K) RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Rathbone, Jack $850,000$850,000 LD UFA - 2		Ferland, Micheal $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1
Schenn, Luke $850,000$850,000 RD UFA - 1
Watson, Austin $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Aug. 12, 2022 at 3:28 p.m.

TheMooterus

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Dallas doesn't have the cap space for Dickinson

Aug. 12, 2022 at 3:41 p.m.

EmilieCastonguay

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Quoting: TheMooterus

Dallas doesn't have the cap space for Dickinson

In fairness, I understand that Robertson (love that guy) and Oettinger have to be signed. What do you think they will re-up for in Dallas?

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Aug. 12, 2022 at 3:58 p.m.

TheMooterus

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Quoting: EmilieCastonguay

In fairness, I understand that Robertson (love that guy) and Oettinger have to be signed. What do you think they will re-up for in Dallas?

Combined, I'm expecting a minimum of $10.5M. I'm expecting a $4M AAV contract for Oettinger and at least $6.5M for Robertson if he takes a bridge deal. If Robertson gets a full 8-year deal, you're looking at roughly another $1.5M for him.

Dallas has the space for both scenarios above, but if Robertson takes a long-term deal at a higher cap hit, they'll have to make a small move or two in order to make it happen, and that's assuming they don't take on any additional cap space.

Aug. 12, 2022 at 4:21 p.m.

Xertalz

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No reason for the Flyers to do that, but the value is reasonable.

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Aug. 12, 2022 at 4:28 p.m.

Claesson4Norris

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Poolman's deal is terrible, and should be a nonstarter for Ottawa.

Aug. 12, 2022 at 4:38 p.m.

EmilieCastonguay

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

Poolman's deal is terrible, and should be a nonstarter for Ottawa.

I give you, Exhibit A: Travis Hamonic - who the Sens *paid* a '22 3rd round pick for @ $3.0 + one more season. VAN is doing OTT a favour by adding the '23 and '24 4th rounders

Aug. 12, 2022 at 4:39 p.m.

palhal

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Teams don't want to add iffy cap when they have their players to pay soon. Flyers or no team are risking a lottery pick for one year of Miller. (and no silliness with extension talk)

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Aug. 12, 2022 at 4:41 p.m.

EmilieCastonguay

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Quoting: Xertalz

No reason for the Flyers to do that, but the value is reasonable.

I agree that on the surface there is no valid reason for the Flyers to do that. But then again, Chuck Fletcher actually extended Rasmus Ristolainen @ $5.1 x 5 *AND* signed Torts as his Head Coach. Chuck be Crazy!

Aug. 12, 2022 at 4:42 p.m.

EmilieCastonguay

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Quoting: palhal

Teams don't want to add iffy cap when they have their players to pay soon. Flyers or no team are risking a lottery pick for one year of Miller. (and no silliness with extension talk)

Umm.. The Flyers thought Rasmus Ristolainen was worthy of a $5.1M x 5 year extension - just because he is tall and a RHD. Chuck Fletcher don't care what Flyers fans think about what constitutes good value.

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