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Kane 50 retain to Toronto

Created by: Tourangeau
Published: Aug. 25, 2022 at 11:12 a.m.
Salary Cap: $82,500,000
Season Days: 185/186 (99%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Chicago BlackhawksChicago Blackhawks

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Kane, PatrickChicago BlackhawksNHL50%$5,221,774011---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Nylander, WilliamToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$6,924,934011---0000--
Sandin, RasmusToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$0011---0000--
Hirvonen, RoniWaivers ExemptToronto Maple LeafsMinor-$0011---0000--
Knies, MatthewToronto Maple LeafsReserve List-$0001---------
2023 1st round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---100------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$7,540,7042245745911
Change-$1,703,160113100
Final$5,837,544 (↓)23 (↑)46 (↑)77 (↑)6 (↑)911000

Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsToronto Maple Leafs

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Nylander, WilliamToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$6,924,934011---0000--
Sandin, RasmusToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$0011---0000--
Hirvonen, RoniWaivers ExemptToronto Maple LeafsMinor-$0011---0000--
Knies, MatthewToronto Maple LeafsReserve List-$0001---------
2023 1st round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---100------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Kane, PatrickChicago BlackhawksNHL50%$5,221,774011---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial-$1,493,1162248683411
Change$1,703,160-1-1-3-100
Final$210,044 (↑)21 (↓)47 (↓)65 (↓)2 (↓)411000
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Aug. 25, 2022 at 11:24 a.m.
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This would be an overpay.
Aug. 25, 2022 at 11:33 a.m.
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This would be an overpay.


Very much and overpay
Aug. 25, 2022 at 12:51 p.m.
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Ummm...no.
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Aug. 25, 2022 at 1:27 p.m.
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thats way too much, think more like 1st+Knies+Niemela+Kerfoot for Kane@25% and an additional top prospect to the 3rd team
Aug. 25, 2022 at 1:34 p.m.
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thats way too much, think more like 1st+Knies+Niemela+Kerfoot for Kane25% and an additional top prospect to the 3rd team


Don’t forgot the cap!
Aug. 25, 2022 at 1:37 p.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Very much and overpay


Kane at 5M are not free
Aug. 25, 2022 at 1:50 p.m.
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Edited Aug. 25, 2022 at 1:55 p.m.
Chicago would do it and flip Nylander at the trade deadline with 50% retention on him too for the equivalent of a couple more firsts.
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Aug. 25, 2022 at 1:51 p.m.
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With extension: Kerfoot and Holl + 2023 1st + 2024 1st + Knies

Or…

Muzzin + 2023 1st + 2024 1st + topi + hirvonen
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Aug. 25, 2022 at 2:00 p.m.
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Kane at 5M are not free


imo Nylander for Kane 50% retained plus a 2nd would work, this is just a massive massive overpay man
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Aug. 25, 2022 at 3:06 p.m.
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can you do double retention in the trade machine?
If so 2024 1st+2nd+Knies+Niemela+Kerfoot for Kane at 50% with Chi and to a 3rd team SDA+2025 1st to retain half of 5.25
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Aug. 25, 2022 at 3:12 p.m.
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can you do double retention in the trade machine?
If so 2024 1st+2nd+Knies+Niemela+Kerfoot for Kane at 50% with Chi and to a 3rd team SDA+2025 1st to retain half of 5.25

I don’t think You could do that. Its never hapened before I think.
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Aug. 25, 2022 at 3:14 p.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
imo Nylander for Kane 50% retained plus a 2nd would work, this is just a massive massive overpay man


Its your opinion but I think Chicago don’t realy care about Nylander. Its only for the cap space and for sure a good value but He is not enough.
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Aug. 25, 2022 at 3:18 p.m.
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Quoting: CoachCoach
With extension: Kerfoot and Holl + 2023 1st + 2024 1st + Knies

Or…


Muzzin + 2023 1st + 2024 1st + topi + hirvonen


I like the first proposal but the second maybe but Muzzin is old.
Aug. 25, 2022 at 3:21 p.m.
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I don’t think You could do that. Its never hapened before I think.


if its doable Kane@ 2.625 fits and leaves just enough meat on the bone to resign Sandin. I would play Kane at 1 LW

Kane-Matthews-Marner
Bunting-Tavares-Nylander
Engvall-Kampf-Jarnkrok
Robertson-Gaudette-Aube

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Lilj
Brodie-Sandin
Holl

Murray
Samsonov
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Aug. 25, 2022 at 3:40 p.m.
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I like the first proposal but the second maybe but Muzzin is old.


The first deal is essentially taking your 3.5 Kerfoot and 2.0 Holl to balance Kane 50% salary. Both Kerfoot and and Holl could be used this season to improve their stock for contending teams, and then flipped at the deadline (not a guarantee, but plausible). Knies is a big time prospect CHI hopes will be a feature for years. One first is equipped for value, the other for retention.

Second deal is Muzzin for Kane 50% contract. Topi and Hiro give CHI two solid prospects (not as high value as Knies but I do like Topi and think he is a future NHL top 4). Same idea applies with the two draft picks.

- Highly unlikely as NMC and NTCs are a thing, but just in terms of value. I also agree that Muzzin is not an ideal target for most teams in the NHL.
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Aug. 25, 2022 at 4:05 p.m.
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Quoting: bobbyt911
if its doable Kane 2.625 fits and leaves just enough meat on the bone to resign Sandin. I would play Kane at 1 LW

Kane-Matthews-Marner
Bunting-Tavares-Nylander
Engvall-Kampf-Jarnkrok
Robertson-Gaudette-Aube

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Lilj
Brodie-Sandin
Holl

Murray
Samsonov


If they don’t pass the first round with that hahahaha
Aug. 25, 2022 at 4:07 p.m.
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The first deal is essentially taking your 3.5 Kerfoot and 2.0 Holl to balance Kane 50% salary. Both Kerfoot and and Holl could be used this season to improve their stock for contending teams, and then flipped at the deadline (not a guarantee, but plausible). Knies is a big time prospect CHI hopes will be a feature for years. One first is equipped for value, the other for retention.

Second deal is Muzzin for Kane 50% contract. Topi and Hiro give CHI two solid prospects (not as high value as Knies but I do like Topi and think he is a future NHL top 4). Same idea applies with the two draft picks.

- Highly unlikely as NMC and NTCs are a thing, but just in terms of value. I also agree that Muzzin is not an ideal target for most teams in the NHL.


I wish that kane come in Toronto that will be crazy for the hockey
Aug. 25, 2022 at 4:40 p.m.
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I wish that kane come in Toronto that will be crazy for the hockey


Matthews Kane Marner Nylander JT Bunting is a scary top 6. Not exactly built for playoff hockey (Kane is) but damn would it be electric.
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